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<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Well, in the case of mailscanner there is no real reason to pay
through the nose for any other product (IMHO!), unless of course you do not
like the way mailscanner works for some reason.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Main
reasons for choosing opensource in addition to those below:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>No
lock-in contracts</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>No
forced upgrade</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Large
support community</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
only reason I can see for choosing a commercial product is if you need
maintenance contracts - I am sure Julian or perhaps others here would be more
than happy to provide such commercial support. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As far
as man hours setup and administering Mailscanner goes - If you have linux skills
already then its no more effort than installing a commercial product. If you do
not have linux skills then it will take some time to get used to and I would
advise you do spend some of that money reserved for this project to get an
expert to install it for you. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Perhaps you need to persuade the 'higher ups' that more money does not
always equate to more quality. It also helps if you give them the ballenced
picture for each solution. ie. factor in man hours for implementation, projected
administration and maintenance and training. Opensource is by no means
free.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>From
personal experience working with both Mailscanner and one of the main commercial
mailsweeping (hint) products I would choose Mailscanner every time - even
tho it has no built in graphical interface it has been easier to administer and
just doesnt go wrong (unless I have done something stupid)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hope
this helps in your decision making....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Sam</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=968132310-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>P.S.
What really sold it to me was when our Mailscanner server blew up (almost
literally). It took a whole 30 minutes to setup another
server. 20 minutes of that was installing SuSE!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Randal, Phil
[mailto:prandal@HEREFORDSHIRE.GOV.UK] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 02 March 2004
09:57<BR><B>To:</B> MAILSCANNER@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
Justification for mailscanner.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=820465509-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Free
upgrades for ever.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=820465509-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=820465509-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Free
technical support, second to none.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=820465509-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=820465509-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Full
access to the source, so you can cuatomise it to your own needs, if ever you
should want to.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=820465509-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=820465509-02032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Phil</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>---------------------------------------------<BR>Phil
Randal<BR>Network Engineer<BR>Herefordshire Council<BR>Hereford, UK
</FONT></P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> MailScanner mailing list
[mailto:MAILSCANNER@JISCMAIL.AC.UK]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Limmer,
Jim<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 March 2004 21:35<BR><B>To:</B>
MAILSCANNER@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<BR><B>Subject:</B> Justification for
mailscanner.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2> My company has budgeted a good amount of
money for a spam/virus filtering email gateway, similar to what I can
accomplish with mailscanner. We've tested a few commercial products, none to
our satisfaction. While we are meeting with their sales staff I typically
jot down each application they are using. It's amazing the amount of money
some of these vendors are charging for what is 99% open source software.
Typically these boxes are running redhat, postfix, sa, razor... the list
goes on. The only proprietary software I see on these boxes are their web
gui front ends, which are typically attractive, but IMHO -
useless.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway, the question was put to me today - how
can you justify wanting to spend valuable man hours building and configuring
our own system based on open source, when we've already budgeted enough
money to cover a commercial solution?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>While the simple answers are the ones that make
sense to us technological people</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>1> open source is good.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2>2> personal satisfaction of putting your own system
together</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>3> It's just darn cool &
techo-geeky.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Unfortunatley, those answers arent going to
satisfy the higher ups.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyone seen any good articles, or have any
comment that may help me put together a good answer to this?</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Jim</FONT>
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