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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I am going to go with eTrust. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>So I have 2-3 more command line scanners
to license.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Have you talked with
someone at CA to see when they are going to support Red Hat 9?<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 and Red Hat 9
are two different OS right?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:GivenName w:st="on"><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Ryan</span></font></st1:GivenName><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st2:PersonName
w:st="on"><st1:GivenName w:st="on">MailScanner</st1:GivenName> <st1:Sn w:st="on">mailing
list</st1:Sn></st2:PersonName> [mailto:MAILSCANNER@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st2:PersonName w:st="on"><st1:GivenName
w:st="on">Nathan</st1:GivenName> <st1:Sn w:st="on">Johanson</st1:Sn></st2:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, <st2:date Year="2003"
Day="28" Month="11" ls="trans" w:st="on">November 28, 2003</st2:date> <st2:time
Minute="41" Hour="14" w:st="on">2:41 PM</st2:time><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> MAILSCANNER@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: scanners I have
picked?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Ryan</span></font></st1:GivenName><font
size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I have made a few discoveries over the
last few weeks since originally posting the antivirus review...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>F-Secure is does not do per server
licensing. See my followup post below. Another user emailed to tell me that the
license agreement does in fact stipulate a per user license when using the
product to scan email. Due to the ambiguity noted below and cheaper costs
elsewhere, I decided against F-Secure. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>As for McAfee, I called NAI directly and
also talked to one of their resellers. In both cases, they assured me that
VirusScan for Unix (aka Command LIne) is licensed per machine. I received a
quote from a local reseller in <st2:State w:st="on"><st2:place w:st="on">California</st2:place></st2:State>
for a ridiculously small sum of money. I also downloaded their license
agreement (available on their web site) and wasn't able to ascertain one way or
the other how it is "actually" licensed. Shortly after posting my
review, several people emailed to tell me that they heard exactly the opposite
from NAI (or McAfee). I decided to scratch them off my list at this point.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Personally, we settled for Computer
Associates eTrust (a little over $100 for five machines) and ClamAV. My
only issue with eTrust is lack of support for recent distributions (in particular
Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 and Red Hat 9 or Fedora). </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:GivenName w:st="on"><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Nathan</span></font></st1:GivenName><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>--Here's a snippet from my previous post
regarding F-Secure--</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I recently posted the results of a full-scale, commercial anti-virus<br>
review. In that email, I said that F-Secure had a per-server licensing<br>
model (based on their web site). However (while in the midst of my<br>
testing phase), I went back to their site and noticed that they have<br>
switched their licensing model to per user when used to scan email. <br>
<br>
At the time of my review a few weeks ago, F-Secure said this about<br>
F-Secure AntiVirus for Linux.<br>
<br>
==<br>
The command line scanner provides a versatile and powerful tool that<br>
works both as a user-invoken command and as a platform for automated<br>
antivirus systems. Detailed reporting and return codes ensure easy<br>
integration with third party mail scanners such as AMaViS (A Mail Virus<br>
Scanner). <br>
==<br>
<br>
Now, it says this:<br>
<br>
==<br>
In case the product is used to scan e-mail traffic, licensing is based<br>
on the number of users who have access to the services provided by the<br>
product. In that case, the customer needs to buy a license for F-Secure<br>
Anti-Virus for Linux Gateways<br>
==<br>
<br>
This means that in the last month they have gone from per user, to per<br>
server, to per user again. A follow up with the sales director I was<br>
talking to earlier yielded no response and no explanations.<br>
<br>
In short, it's clear that these guys are in transition and aren't really<br>
sure how to sell their products. I've scratched them off my list. For<br>
those of you that can afford this kind of license, F-Secure does appear<br>
to be a viable product from a technical standpoint since it incorporate<br>
three different engines into one scanner.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <st2:PersonName w:st="on"><st1:GivenName
w:st="on">Ryan</st1:GivenName> <st1:Sn w:st="on">Finnesey</st1:Sn></st2:PersonName>
[mailto:ryan.finnesey@CORPDSG.COM] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, <st2:date
Year="2003" Day="26" Month="11" ls="trans" w:st="on">November 26, 2003</st2:date>
<st2:time Minute="53" Hour="20" w:st="on">8:53 PM</st2:time><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> MAILSCANNER@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> scanners I have picked?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->I need to pick about
four Command Line scanners for a MailScaner deployment and I was</span></font> <font
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>reading</span></font>
<a href="http://www.sng.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailscanner/serve/cache/213.html"><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>http://www.sng.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailscanner/serve/cache/213.html</span></font></a><font
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'> from that
list I have picked F-Secure Anti-Virus for Servers for Linux, McAfee</span></font>
<font color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Virus
Scan for Unix, CA eTrust eTrust</span></font> <font color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Antivirus 7.0 and Sophos (I hope I can get
some per server pricing)</span></font> <font color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>but then I was also looking at</span></font>
<a href="http://www.sng.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailscanner/serve/cache/88.html"><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>http://www.sng.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailscanner/serve/cache/88.html</span></font></a><font
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'> I do not see
a date on this posting. Do you know if McAfee has updated the
product? I also welcome any comments on the other scanners I have picked.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>I would like to thank everyone for there time and help.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:red;font-weight:
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""'><b><font size=2 color=red face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:
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<b><font size=2 color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue;font-weight:bold'>Diversified Solutions
Group</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><b><font size=2 color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue;font-weight:bold'>119 West 72 Street</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><st2:place w:st="on"><st2:City w:st="on"><b><font size=2 color=blue
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:blue;font-weight:bold'>New York</span></font></b></st2:City><b><font
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font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue;font-weight:bold'> <st2:State w:st="on">NY</st2:State>
<st2:PostalCode w:st="on">10023</st2:PostalCode></span></font></b></st2:place><br>
<font color=blue face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:blue'>:</span></font><font
size=2 color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>
ryan.finnesey@corpdsg.com</span></font><br>
<font color=blue face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:blue'>(
</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>212-920-0000</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=blue face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;color:blue'>2 </span></font><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> 212-920-0001</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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