From davidd.okc at gmail.com  Mon May 17 20:06:08 2021
From: davidd.okc at gmail.com (David Daniluk)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 15:06:08 -0500
Subject: whitelist issues
Message-ID: <CAO6Be2zsFV2P5=mBwyxT+OnJ4PRw5to+v3zbp1UTBA9x9Ub9Pw@mail.gmail.com>

I am running version 4.84.5. I am having a few issues with my whitelist. I
have several rules that do not seem to be working. What I mean is that even
though I have a rule to let mail from a sender through; sometimes messages
still get marked as spam.



My first issue is very similar to the post here:
http://lists.mailscanner.info/pipermail/mailscanner/2002-December/008540.html.
I have whitelist entries like below

From:    *@example.com             AND TO: *@mydomain.com       yes

From:    *@*.example.com         AND TO: *@mydomain.com       yes

            ^tab                               ^tab     ^space (and after
TO:)       ^tab



The first rule seems to work without issues, but the second does not work
(at least for some of the rules like that). My question on this one is: is
my entry correct or did I make a mistake by not using
?/[\@\.]example\.com$/?.



My second issue is less generic as I only have one rule like it.
From:    *@onesub.twosub.example.com            AND TO: *@mydomain.com
yes



E-mails coming from exactly what I have the rule for are still getting
marked as spam L.

Is there a syntax checker for the whitelist anywhere?



Thank You,

David
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From mark at msapiro.net  Mon May 17 22:35:13 2021
From: mark at msapiro.net (Mark Sapiro)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 15:35:13 -0700
Subject: whitelist issues
In-Reply-To: <CAO6Be2zsFV2P5=mBwyxT+OnJ4PRw5to+v3zbp1UTBA9x9Ub9Pw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO6Be2zsFV2P5=mBwyxT+OnJ4PRw5to+v3zbp1UTBA9x9Ub9Pw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a32a91d9-d83c-631b-2125-99d57d975128@msapiro.net>

On 5/17/21 1:06 PM, David Daniluk wrote:
> 
> My first issue is very similar to the post here:
> http://lists.mailscanner.info/pipermail/mailscanner/2002-December/008540.html.
> I have whitelist entries like below
> 
> From:??? *@example.com???????????? AND TO:
> *@mydomain.com?????? yes
> 
> From:??? *@*.example.com???????? AND TO:
> *@mydomain.com?????? yes
> 
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ^tab? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?^tab? ? ?^space (and
> after TO:)? ? ? ?^tab
> 
> ?
> 
> The first rule seems to work without issues, but the second does not
> work (at least for some of the rules like that). My question on this one
> is: is my entry correct or did I make a mistake by not using
> ?/[\@\.]example\.com$/?.


Yours as they are should be OK. As far as the regexp goes, I prefer
that, but it should be

/[@.]example\.com$/

things like '.' lose their special meaning inside a character class and
shouldn't be escaped.


> My second issue is less generic as I only have one rule like it.
> From:??? *@onesub.twosub.example.com	AND TO: *@mydomain.com	yes
> 
> ?
> 
> E-mails coming from exactly what I have the rule for are still getting
> marked as spam L.
> 
> Is there a syntax checker for the whitelist anywhere?


Where are you referencing these rules? It is possible that the rule is
fine, but the setting you are applying it to is not the correct one to
do what you want


-- 
Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

From davidd.okc at gmail.com  Wed May 19 13:50:51 2021
From: davidd.okc at gmail.com (David Daniluk)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 08:50:51 -0500
Subject: whitelist issues
In-Reply-To: <a32a91d9-d83c-631b-2125-99d57d975128@msapiro.net>
References: <CAO6Be2zsFV2P5=mBwyxT+OnJ4PRw5to+v3zbp1UTBA9x9Ub9Pw@mail.gmail.com>
 <a32a91d9-d83c-631b-2125-99d57d975128@msapiro.net>
Message-ID: <CAO6Be2yV5kf3xmV=88Y1u-mFR+zsMr9kJ-TTQ+QmydQpd=ENHA@mail.gmail.com>

If I am not misunderstanding what you mean... The rule is in the middle of
other rules. It would look similar to the below. May I as what you meant by
"the setting you are applying"? I did not know that there were settings
that could be applied to rules. I feel like all the rules I have are
'generic' white-list rules; I do not think I have any areas that would be
considered to be settings.

From:   *@oneexample.com                                   AND TO: *@
mydomain.com   yes
From:   *@onesub.twosub.anotherexample.com   AND TO: *@mydomain.com   yes
From:   *@towexample.com                                   AND TO: *@
mydomain.com   yes

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 5:35 PM Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> wrote:

> On 5/17/21 1:06 PM, David Daniluk wrote:
> >
> > My first issue is very similar to the post here:
> >
> http://lists.mailscanner.info/pipermail/mailscanner/2002-December/008540.html
> .
> > I have whitelist entries like below
> >
> > From:    *@example.com             AND TO:
> > *@mydomain.com       yes
> >
> > From:    *@*.example.com         AND TO:
> > *@mydomain.com       yes
> >
> >             ^tab                               ^tab     ^space (and
> > after TO:)       ^tab
> >
> >
> >
> > The first rule seems to work without issues, but the second does not
> > work (at least for some of the rules like that). My question on this one
> > is: is my entry correct or did I make a mistake by not using
> > ?/[\@\.]example\.com$/?.
>
>
> Yours as they are should be OK. As far as the regexp goes, I prefer
> that, but it should be
>
> /[@.]example\.com$/
>
> things like '.' lose their special meaning inside a character class and
> shouldn't be escaped.
>
>
> > My second issue is less generic as I only have one rule like it.
> > From:    *@onesub.twosub.example.com  AND TO: *@mydomain.com  yes
> >
> >
> >
> > E-mails coming from exactly what I have the rule for are still getting
> > marked as spam L.
> >
> > Is there a syntax checker for the whitelist anywhere?
>
>
> Where are you referencing these rules? It is possible that the rule is
> fine, but the setting you are applying it to is not the correct one to
> do what you want
>
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
>
>
> --
> MailScanner mailing list
> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>
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From mark at msapiro.net  Wed May 19 14:13:54 2021
From: mark at msapiro.net (Mark Sapiro)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 07:13:54 -0700
Subject: whitelist issues
In-Reply-To: <CAO6Be2yV5kf3xmV=88Y1u-mFR+zsMr9kJ-TTQ+QmydQpd=ENHA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO6Be2zsFV2P5=mBwyxT+OnJ4PRw5to+v3zbp1UTBA9x9Ub9Pw@mail.gmail.com>
 <a32a91d9-d83c-631b-2125-99d57d975128@msapiro.net>
 <CAO6Be2yV5kf3xmV=88Y1u-mFR+zsMr9kJ-TTQ+QmydQpd=ENHA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0ae19527-2fc3-7c71-7f6d-da1fa077d25b@msapiro.net>

On 5/19/21 6:50 AM, David Daniluk wrote:
> If I am not misunderstanding what you mean... The rule is in the middle
> of other rules. It would look similar to the below. May I as what you
> meant?by "the setting you are applying"? I did not know that there were
> settings that could be applied to rules. I feel like all the rules I
> have are 'generic' white-list rules; I do not think I have any areas
> that would be considered to be settings.



What is the name of the file in which you are placing these rules and
how is that file referenced in the MailScanner configuration?


-- 
Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

From davidd.okc at gmail.com  Wed May 19 14:29:15 2021
From: davidd.okc at gmail.com (David Daniluk)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 09:29:15 -0500
Subject: whitelist issues
In-Reply-To: <0ae19527-2fc3-7c71-7f6d-da1fa077d25b@msapiro.net>
References: <CAO6Be2zsFV2P5=mBwyxT+OnJ4PRw5to+v3zbp1UTBA9x9Ub9Pw@mail.gmail.com>
 <a32a91d9-d83c-631b-2125-99d57d975128@msapiro.net>
 <CAO6Be2yV5kf3xmV=88Y1u-mFR+zsMr9kJ-TTQ+QmydQpd=ENHA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0ae19527-2fc3-7c71-7f6d-da1fa077d25b@msapiro.net>
Message-ID: <CAO6Be2x2x9k-cY9BBc9_9Mxyu5BYe+5wq6PhgNzWgBbPamkk7Q@mail.gmail.com>

The file is: "/etc/MailScanner/rules/spam.whitelist.rules". It is
referenced here: "Is Definitely Not Spam =
%rules-dir%/spam.whitelist.rules". For completeness sake here is another
part you might want: "%rules-dir% = /etc/MailScanner/rules".

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 9:14 AM Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> wrote:

> On 5/19/21 6:50 AM, David Daniluk wrote:
> > If I am not misunderstanding what you mean... The rule is in the middle
> > of other rules. It would look similar to the below. May I as what you
> > meant by "the setting you are applying"? I did not know that there were
> > settings that could be applied to rules. I feel like all the rules I
> > have are 'generic' white-list rules; I do not think I have any areas
> > that would be considered to be settings.
>
>
>
> What is the name of the file in which you are placing these rules and
> how is that file referenced in the MailScanner configuration?
>
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
>
>
> --
> MailScanner mailing list
> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>
>
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From mark at msapiro.net  Wed May 19 14:56:55 2021
From: mark at msapiro.net (Mark Sapiro)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 07:56:55 -0700
Subject: whitelist issues
In-Reply-To: <CAO6Be2x2x9k-cY9BBc9_9Mxyu5BYe+5wq6PhgNzWgBbPamkk7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO6Be2zsFV2P5=mBwyxT+OnJ4PRw5to+v3zbp1UTBA9x9Ub9Pw@mail.gmail.com>
 <a32a91d9-d83c-631b-2125-99d57d975128@msapiro.net>
 <CAO6Be2yV5kf3xmV=88Y1u-mFR+zsMr9kJ-TTQ+QmydQpd=ENHA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0ae19527-2fc3-7c71-7f6d-da1fa077d25b@msapiro.net>
 <CAO6Be2x2x9k-cY9BBc9_9Mxyu5BYe+5wq6PhgNzWgBbPamkk7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <94494cc3-2dea-940a-b5b3-085db325c4df@msapiro.net>

On 5/19/21 7:29 AM, David Daniluk wrote:
> The file is: "/etc/MailScanner/rules/spam.whitelist.rules". It is
> referenced?here: "Is Definitely Not Spam =
> %rules-dir%/spam.whitelist.rules". For completeness?sake here is another
> part you might want: "%rules-dir% = /etc/MailScanner/rules".

OK.

You say the rule is in the middle of other rules. That ruleset is first
match. Is there a preceding rule with value 'no' that might match

From:    *@*.example.com

-- 
Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

From davidd.okc at gmail.com  Wed May 19 15:28:55 2021
From: davidd.okc at gmail.com (David Daniluk)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 10:28:55 -0500
Subject: whitelist issues
In-Reply-To: <94494cc3-2dea-940a-b5b3-085db325c4df@msapiro.net>
References: <CAO6Be2zsFV2P5=mBwyxT+OnJ4PRw5to+v3zbp1UTBA9x9Ub9Pw@mail.gmail.com>
 <a32a91d9-d83c-631b-2125-99d57d975128@msapiro.net>
 <CAO6Be2yV5kf3xmV=88Y1u-mFR+zsMr9kJ-TTQ+QmydQpd=ENHA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0ae19527-2fc3-7c71-7f6d-da1fa077d25b@msapiro.net>
 <CAO6Be2x2x9k-cY9BBc9_9Mxyu5BYe+5wq6PhgNzWgBbPamkk7Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAO6Be2wt28AADMX=vQ7raB1M0goPe5dM_fY8EXxeU5fpRUs8-Q@mail.gmail.com>

I only have 2 rules that have no in them on this list. both of which are
for different domains. Although for the sake of my sanity I am going to
move them to the blacklist.

If I may add another question to this post... what are the white-space
requirements for the rules? are tabs *required* if so which fields require
them? For instance, I do not have a tab character between "AND TO:" and the
next field.

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 9:57 AM Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> wrote:

> On 5/19/21 7:29 AM, David Daniluk wrote:
> > The file is: "/etc/MailScanner/rules/spam.whitelist.rules". It is
> > referenced here: "Is Definitely Not Spam =
> > %rules-dir%/spam.whitelist.rules". For completeness sake here is another
> > part you might want: "%rules-dir% = /etc/MailScanner/rules".
>
> OK.
>
> You say the rule is in the middle of other rules. That ruleset is first
> match. Is there a preceding rule with value 'no' that might match
>
> From:    *@*.example.com
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
>
>
> --
> MailScanner mailing list
> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>
>
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From mark at msapiro.net  Wed May 19 16:16:18 2021
From: mark at msapiro.net (Mark Sapiro)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 09:16:18 -0700
Subject: whitelist issues
In-Reply-To: <CAO6Be2wt28AADMX=vQ7raB1M0goPe5dM_fY8EXxeU5fpRUs8-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO6Be2zsFV2P5=mBwyxT+OnJ4PRw5to+v3zbp1UTBA9x9Ub9Pw@mail.gmail.com>
 <a32a91d9-d83c-631b-2125-99d57d975128@msapiro.net>
 <CAO6Be2yV5kf3xmV=88Y1u-mFR+zsMr9kJ-TTQ+QmydQpd=ENHA@mail.gmail.com>
 <0ae19527-2fc3-7c71-7f6d-da1fa077d25b@msapiro.net>
 <CAO6Be2x2x9k-cY9BBc9_9Mxyu5BYe+5wq6PhgNzWgBbPamkk7Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <09367261-59a0-ab73-34ff-9aaf56057106@msapiro.net>

On 5/19/21 8:28 AM, David Daniluk wrote:
> I only have 2 rules that have no in them on this list. both of which are
> for different?domains. Although for the sake of my sanity I am going to
> move them to the blacklist.


Then I don't know what the issue is.


> If I may add another question to this post... what are the white-space
> requirements for the rules? are tabs *required*?if so which
> fields?require them? For instance, I do not have a tab character between
> "AND TO:" and the next field.


See /etc/MailScanner/rules/README. Any whitespace works as a field
delimiter in rulesets. The places where tabs are required are in
filename.rules.conf and filetype.rules.conf.


-- 
Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

From davidd.okc at gmail.com  Thu May 27 18:23:06 2021
From: davidd.okc at gmail.com (David Daniluk)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 13:23:06 -0500
Subject: whitelist issue
In-Reply-To: <2c5e3a6b-5013-e137-e13b-0d5fb91ec9ad@msapiro.net>
References: <CAO6Be2xz7mAN4RAtW+zHwtARZZo_Zc-CKsjinttWKMN6TUJp9Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <2c5e3a6b-5013-e137-e13b-0d5fb91ec9ad@msapiro.net>
Message-ID: <CAO6Be2yrZMVhXqg0BuwmnKwht9hX+z+04kTQgTBhh0wHgeCTDg@mail.gmail.com>

What happens if there is a syntax error in the whitelist? Does it simply
skip that line or does it "break" the rest of the file?
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From mark at msapiro.net  Thu May 27 23:26:29 2021
From: mark at msapiro.net (Mark Sapiro)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 16:26:29 -0700
Subject: whitelist issue
In-Reply-To: <CAO6Be2yrZMVhXqg0BuwmnKwht9hX+z+04kTQgTBhh0wHgeCTDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO6Be2xz7mAN4RAtW+zHwtARZZo_Zc-CKsjinttWKMN6TUJp9Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <2c5e3a6b-5013-e137-e13b-0d5fb91ec9ad@msapiro.net>
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Message-ID: <e7f3b4cf-d403-9107-d80e-e06b879a736a@msapiro.net>

On 5/27/21 11:23 AM, David Daniluk wrote:
> 
> What happens if there is a syntax error in the whitelist? Does it simply
> skip that line or does it "break" the rest of the file?


First of all, if you run `sudo MailScanner --lint` it will report any
syntax errors in rulesets.

Also, as I read the code in `sub Store1Rule` in
`/usr/share/MailScanner/perl/MailScanner/Config.pm, a syntax error just
causes that one line to be ignored.


-- 
Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

From mailscanner at barendse.to  Fri May 28 12:01:48 2021
From: mailscanner at barendse.to (Remco Barendse)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 14:01:48 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Ubuntu 20.04 and MailScanner+sendmail installation instructions?
Message-ID: <288d9b41-9bec-e953-d915-b375dcd8e724@barendse.to>

I am migrating all servers from CentOS -> Ubuntu since RedHat pulled the 
rug under CentOS. MailScanner is the last task on the list, but google 
revealed that Ubuntu + sendmail/mailscanner is not a very popular 
option?  Are there installation instructions anywhere ?  I am finding bits 
and pieces online but nothing complete.

Google didn't reveal much about  sendmail on Ubuntu either.

I installed Ubuntu 20.04, from the .deb file and installed MailScanner 
without major errors (CPAN doesn't like it by the way if the 
box is not connected directly to the internet but via a proxy.

I created second incoming directory :
mkdir /var/spool/mqueue.in ; chown smmta:smmsp /var/spool/mqueue.in ;
chmod 2750 /var/spool/mqueue.in

I set Incoming "Queue Dir = /var/spool/mqueue.in" in MailScanner.conf

MailScanner website mentions modification of startup script (which I 
think is stale?), a google search revealed this is what needs to be 
changed :
sed -i 's/DAEMON_PARMS=""/DAEMON_PARMS="-bd -OPrivacyOptions=noetrn 
-ODeliveryMode=queueonly -OQueueDirectory=\/var\/spool\/mqueue.in"/g' 
/etc/mail/sendmail.conf

I ran sendmailconfig, will modify sendmail.mc with all FEATUREs from 
CentOS sendmail.mc.

Anything else I overlooked?

The server will not deliver mail locally but relay everything to 
Exchange, can I enable define(`confSAFE_FILE_ENV',             `')dnl or will that 
break MailScanner?

Is DCC still used ? (https://www.dcc-servers.net/dcc/)

Thanks for any hints / tips!
Remco

-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and
dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
believed to be clean.


From thom at vdb.nl  Fri May 28 13:18:28 2021
From: thom at vdb.nl (Thom van der Boon)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 13:18:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Ubuntu 20.04 and MailScanner+sendmail installation instructions?
In-Reply-To: <288d9b41-9bec-e953-d915-b375dcd8e724@barendse.to>
References: <288d9b41-9bec-e953-d915-b375dcd8e724@barendse.to>
Message-ID: <860845252.125691.1622207908451.JavaMail.zimbra@vdb.nl>

Hi remco, 

Why do you use sendmail? and not f.e. Postfix? 

Met vriendelijke groet, Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Best regards, 


Thom van der Boon 


Van: "Remco Barendse" <mailscanner at barendse.to> 
Aan: "MailScanner Discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info> 
Verzonden: Vrijdag 28 mei 2021 14:01:48 
Onderwerp: Ubuntu 20.04 and MailScanner+sendmail installation instructions? 

I am migrating all servers from CentOS -> Ubuntu since RedHat pulled the 
rug under CentOS. MailScanner is the last task on the list, but google 
revealed that Ubuntu + sendmail/mailscanner is not a very popular 
option? Are there installation instructions anywhere ? I am finding bits 
and pieces online but nothing complete. 

Google didn't reveal much about sendmail on Ubuntu either. 

I installed Ubuntu 20.04, from the .deb file and installed MailScanner 
without major errors (CPAN doesn't like it by the way if the 
box is not connected directly to the internet but via a proxy. 

I created second incoming directory : 
mkdir /var/spool/mqueue.in ; chown smmta:smmsp /var/spool/mqueue.in ; 
chmod 2750 /var/spool/mqueue.in 

I set Incoming "Queue Dir = /var/spool/mqueue.in" in MailScanner.conf 

MailScanner website mentions modification of startup script (which I 
think is stale?), a google search revealed this is what needs to be 
changed : 
sed -i 's/DAEMON_PARMS=""/DAEMON_PARMS="-bd -OPrivacyOptions=noetrn 
-ODeliveryMode=queueonly -OQueueDirectory=\/var\/spool\/mqueue.in"/g' 
/etc/mail/sendmail.conf 

I ran sendmailconfig, will modify sendmail.mc with all FEATUREs from 
CentOS sendmail.mc. 

Anything else I overlooked? 

The server will not deliver mail locally but relay everything to 
Exchange, can I enable define(`confSAFE_FILE_ENV', `')dnl or will that 
break MailScanner? 

Is DCC still used ? (https://www.dcc-servers.net/dcc/) 

Thanks for any hints / tips! 
Remco 

-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and 
dangerous content by MailScanner, and is 
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From mailscanner at replies.cyways.com  Fri May 28 14:02:12 2021
From: mailscanner at replies.cyways.com (Peter H. Lemieux)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 10:02:12 -0400
Subject: {Spam?} Re: Ubuntu 20.04 and MailScanner+sendmail installation
 instructions?
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References: <288d9b41-9bec-e953-d915-b375dcd8e724@barendse.to>
 <860845252.125691.1622207908451.JavaMail.zimbra@vdb.nl>
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In my case it's because I have a couple decades invested in learning how 
to run sendmail.  It would take considerable effort to teach myself how 
to do the same things with Postfix without much appreciable benefit.

Peter


On 5/28/21 9:18 AM, Thom van der Boon wrote:
> Hi remco,
> 
> Why do you use sendmail? and not f.e. Postfix?
> 
> Met vriendelijke groet, Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Best regards,
> 
> 
> Thom van der Boon
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Van: *"Remco Barendse" <mailscanner at barendse.to>
> *Aan: *"MailScanner Discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
> *Verzonden: *Vrijdag 28 mei 2021 14:01:48
> *Onderwerp: *Ubuntu 20.04 and MailScanner+sendmail installation 
> instructions?
> 
> I am migrating all servers from CentOS -> Ubuntu since RedHat pulled the
> rug under CentOS. MailScanner is the last task on the list, but google
> revealed that Ubuntu + sendmail/mailscanner is not a very popular
> option? ?Are there installation instructions anywhere ? ?I am finding bits
> and pieces online but nothing complete.
> 
> Google didn't reveal much about ?sendmail on Ubuntu either.
> 
> I installed Ubuntu 20.04, from the .deb file and installed MailScanner
> without major errors (CPAN doesn't like it by the way if the
> box is not connected directly to the internet but via a proxy.
> 
> I created second incoming directory :
> mkdir /var/spool/mqueue.in ; chown smmta:smmsp /var/spool/mqueue.in ;
> chmod 2750 /var/spool/mqueue.in
> 
> I set Incoming "Queue Dir = /var/spool/mqueue.in" in MailScanner.conf
> 
> MailScanner website mentions modification of startup script (which I
> think is stale?), a google search revealed this is what needs to be
> changed :
> sed -i 's/DAEMON_PARMS=""/DAEMON_PARMS="-bd -OPrivacyOptions=noetrn
> -ODeliveryMode=queueonly -OQueueDirectory=\/var\/spool\/mqueue.in"/g'
> /etc/mail/sendmail.conf
> 
> I ran sendmailconfig, will modify sendmail.mc with all FEATUREs from
> CentOS sendmail.mc.
> 
> Anything else I overlooked?
> 
> The server will not deliver mail locally but relay everything to
> Exchange, can I enable define(`confSAFE_FILE_ENV', ? ? ? ? ? ? `')dnl or 
> will that
> break MailScanner?
> 
> Is DCC still used ? (https://www.dcc-servers.net/dcc/)
> 
> Thanks for any hints / tips!
> Remco
> 
> -- 
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> believed to be clean.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 



From mailscanner at barendse.to  Fri May 28 14:45:09 2021
From: mailscanner at barendse.to (Remco Barendse)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 16:45:09 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Ubuntu 20.04 and MailScanner+sendmail installation instructions?
In-Reply-To: <860845252.125691.1622207908451.JavaMail.zimbra@vdb.nl>
References: <288d9b41-9bec-e953-d915-b375dcd8e724@barendse.to>
 <860845252.125691.1622207908451.JavaMail.zimbra@vdb.nl>
Message-ID: <69e8e584-b118-ac3e-b4ed-daa0d72d79ec@barendse.to>

Hi Thom!

No particular reason. sendmail popped up as option 1) and recommended when 
running MailScanner install and it was running on my previous boxes.
Could go for postfix as well :)

My only need is for the box to forward cleaned/scanned messages on to the 
Microsoft Exchange server (I use mailertable for that)

Thanks!

On Fri, 28 May 2021, Thom van der Boon wrote:

> Hi remco,
> 
> Why do you use sendmail? and not f.e. Postfix?
> 
> Met vriendelijke groet, Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Best regards,
> 
> 
> Thom van der Boon
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> Van: "Remco Barendse" <mailscanner at barendse.to>
> Aan: "MailScanner Discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
> Verzonden: Vrijdag 28 mei 2021 14:01:48
> Onderwerp: Ubuntu 20.04 and MailScanner+sendmail installation instructions?
> 
> I am migrating all servers from CentOS -> Ubuntu since RedHat pulled the
> rug under CentOS. MailScanner is the last task on the list, but google
> revealed that Ubuntu + sendmail/mailscanner is not a very popular
> option? ?Are there installation instructions anywhere ? ?I am finding bits
> and pieces online but nothing complete.
> 
> Google didn't reveal much about ?sendmail on Ubuntu either.
> 
> I installed Ubuntu 20.04, from the .deb file and installed MailScanner
> without major errors (CPAN doesn't like it by the way if the
> box is not connected directly to the internet but via a proxy.
> 
> I created second incoming directory :
> mkdir /var/spool/mqueue.in ; chown smmta:smmsp /var/spool/mqueue.in ;
> chmod 2750 /var/spool/mqueue.in
> 
> I set Incoming "Queue Dir = /var/spool/mqueue.in" in MailScanner.conf
> 
> MailScanner website mentions modification of startup script (which I
> think is stale?), a google search revealed this is what needs to be
> changed :
> sed -i 's/DAEMON_PARMS=""/DAEMON_PARMS="-bd -OPrivacyOptions=noetrn
> -ODeliveryMode=queueonly -OQueueDirectory=\/var\/spool\/mqueue.in"/g'
> /etc/mail/sendmail.conf
> 
> I ran sendmailconfig, will modify sendmail.mc with all FEATUREs from
> CentOS sendmail.mc.
> 
> Anything else I overlooked?
> 
> The server will not deliver mail locally but relay everything to
> Exchange, can I enable define(`confSAFE_FILE_ENV', ? ? ? ? ? ? `')dnl or will that
> break MailScanner?
> 
> Is DCC still used ? (https://www.dcc-servers.net/dcc/)
> 
> Thanks for any hints / tips!
> Remco
> 
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> believed to be clean.
> 
> 
> 
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> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
> 
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> believed to be clean.
>
-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and
dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
believed to be clean.


From jmgorro at gmail.com  Mon May 31 13:24:52 2021
From: jmgorro at gmail.com (Josep M Gorro)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 15:24:52 +0200
Subject: New distro
Message-ID: <CAFOCrcUFdC5iKFbjSHgQeXPscOiVCPFYp1wGL5+LYwA2a1np-w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello list.
Worried about what to do once RedHat announced Centos8 becomes pre-release
version, I'm planning to migrate to Ubuntu LTS version. But any
documentation has been found using Google search engine.
I have MailScanner with ClamAV and Postfix running fine but I would like to
upgrade to MailScanner 5 over an stable Linux distro.
Are there any documentation to use Ubuntu instead of Centos?
Why the User's guide have not been updated since 2007?
Thanks for your help.
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From thom at vdb.nl  Mon May 31 14:13:18 2021
From: thom at vdb.nl (Thom van der Boon)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 14:13:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: New distro
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Message-ID: <686408252.132203.1622470398632.JavaMail.zimbra@vdb.nl>

Hi Josep, 

I am currently writing a install how-to for MailScanner with Postfix on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. Should be ready later today 

Met vriendelijke groet, Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Best regards, 


Thom van der Boon 


Van: "Josep M Gorro" <jmgorro at gmail.com> 
Aan: "MailScanner Discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info> 
Verzonden: Maandag 31 mei 2021 15:24:52 
Onderwerp: New distro 

Hello list. 
Worried about what to do once RedHat announced Centos8 becomes pre-release version, I'm planning to migrate to Ubuntu LTS version. But any documentation has been found using Google search engine. 
I have MailScanner with ClamAV and Postfix running fine but I would like to upgrade to MailScanner 5 over an stable Linux distro. 
Are there any documentation to use Ubuntu instead of Centos? 
Why the User's guide have not been updated since 2007? 
Thanks for your help. 



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From jmgorro at gmail.com  Mon May 31 14:31:43 2021
From: jmgorro at gmail.com (Josep M Gorro)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 16:31:43 +0200
Subject: New distro
In-Reply-To: <686408252.132203.1622470398632.JavaMail.zimbra@vdb.nl>
References: <CAFOCrcUFdC5iKFbjSHgQeXPscOiVCPFYp1wGL5+LYwA2a1np-w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFOCrcUbn=BXwwmaeFBR78CQPNhGqtTMcQ_mqW6FZ2Q48Q2Afg@mail.gmail.com>

Really great Thom.
Waiting for this doc.

Missatge de Thom van der Boon <thom at vdb.nl> del dia dl., 31 de maig 2021 a
les 16:13:

> Hi Josep,
>
> I am currently writing a install how-to for MailScanner with Postfix on
> Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. Should be ready later today
>
> Met vriendelijke groet, Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Best regards,
>
>
> Thom van der Boon
>
> ------------------------------
> *Van: *"Josep M Gorro" <jmgorro at gmail.com>
> *Aan: *"MailScanner Discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
> *Verzonden: *Maandag 31 mei 2021 15:24:52
> *Onderwerp: *New distro
>
> Hello list.
> Worried about what to do once RedHat announced Centos8 becomes pre-release
> version, I'm planning to migrate to Ubuntu LTS version. But any
> documentation has been found using Google search engine.
> I have MailScanner with ClamAV and Postfix running fine but I would like
> to upgrade to MailScanner 5 over an stable Linux distro.
> Are there any documentation to use Ubuntu instead of Centos?
> Why the User's guide have not been updated since 2007?
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> --
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> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>
>
> --
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> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
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From shawniverson at summitgrid.com  Mon May 31 17:58:27 2021
From: shawniverson at summitgrid.com (Shawn Iverson)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 13:58:27 -0400
Subject: New distro
In-Reply-To: <CAFOCrcUFdC5iKFbjSHgQeXPscOiVCPFYp1wGL5+LYwA2a1np-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFOCrcUFdC5iKFbjSHgQeXPscOiVCPFYp1wGL5+LYwA2a1np-w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53bb7847-2175-be52-122c-221755eea1e1@summitgrid.com>

On 5/31/21 9:24 AM, Josep M Gorro wrote:
> Why the User's guide have not been updated since 2007?
>
The guide is copyrighted by the publisher and is untouchable as a result.

A completely new guide would have to be written from scratch, and I have 
not had the time to invest at this point.