From glenn.steen at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 11:16:06 2012
From: glenn.steen at gmail.com (Glenn Steen)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:16:06 +0100
Subject: Reprocessing quarantined messages [Solved, sort of]
In-Reply-To: <0030FF4C264344AC9D469DBF83EA01AE@lib.wan>
References: <D0BE8D5AAB4E4168A997DBFCE61F2258@lib.wan>
	<WM!a1b8b8f2e01f7137451fae266099e880b6f085c67514873060ca6a55e3ad9fc2995b924f8ef57f1b56e51e8f09c62cfde377d48438e6e3077344d792fc0f877d!@mail1-ec2.fsl.com>
	<50B7C005.3010301@fsl.com>
	<WM!83e3b98631e3fbac52f880578638d5dd647d2971e21ceb99cf49891120fe8eff038d512de39d0c34f9b08a88b3de3813!@mail1-ec2.fsl.com>
	<F770D96B7AE44A7A9BA5D6296EB412B1@lib.wan>
	<55D4C64596F3450C9A0216665FE44BAA@lib.wan>
	<0030FF4C264344AC9D469DBF83EA01AE@lib.wan>
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Yep, that's the root cause... I've never run my systems like that (mainly
because I've used Mailwatch for do long:-), but I *think* that means the
message will be stored in individual pieces/files... If you have the
individual parts and the headers, you might be able to reconstruct the
message file, but... That may be a nontrivial thing to script.
Can you provide an example somewhere for us to play with? Just choose a
message, tar and gzip that directory, then post it domewhere for us to grab
it.
As said, this is not the most common setup combination, so we'd need see
exactly what you have there.

Cheers!
-- 
-- Glenn
Den 1 dec 2012 00:26 skrev "Michael Sauvola" <msauvola at nwls.lib.wi.us>:

>
>  I think I found the cause, and unfortunately no solution.
>
> MailScanner.conf
> Quarantine Whole Message=no
> Quarantine Whole Message as Queue File=no
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>  *From:* Michael Sauvola <msauvola at nwls.lib.wi.us>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2012 12:48 PM
> *To:* MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
> *Subject:* Re: Reprocessing quarantined messages
>
>   Or does this explain it ( at the top of one message)
>
> *This is a multi-part message in MIME format.*
> **
> *--------=_NextPart_000_0077_01CDCCA4.A62F4130*
> *Content-Type: text/plain;*
> *                charset=?iso-8859-1?*
> *Content-Transfer-Encoding:  quoted-printable*
> **
> **
> *Mike*
>
>
>  *From:* Michael Sauvola <msauvola at nwls.lib.wi.us>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2012 12:01 PM
> *To:* MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
> *Subject:* Re: Reprocessing quarantined messages
>
>   OK,
>
>  I took the ?each? out of the statement, and it seems to go through each
> directory.
>
>  But now as it processes, I get this message:
>
>  ?No recipient addressess found in header?
>
>  If I look inside some of the message files, they seem to be broken up
> ?pieces? of messages.
>
>  So, ?Quarantine Whole Messages As Queue Files=no? breaks them into
> pieces rather than storing the whole message plain text? Or at least that?s
> what seems to have happened.
>
>  I appreciate the help you folks are giving me. I am somewhat swamped
> with 400+ PCs to support in 30 locations 130 miles apart, plus 7 servers
> here in the main office.
>  With the help of 1 other staff member, we know enough to keep things
> going most of the time, but haven?t become expert in anything, so need a
> bit of direction now and then.
>
>  Any other suggestions? Or are we screwed?
>
>  Thanks again,
>
>  Mike
>
>
>
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From peter at farrows.org  Mon Dec  3 10:45:13 2012
From: peter at farrows.org (Peter Farrow)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 10:45:13 +0000
Subject: dnswl.org and phishing
In-Reply-To: <CAA510g6U6-VBHx7SuRkw3t_U5jUVvnxdo5xvuFSqNqzZ_z+QEw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA510g6U6-VBHx7SuRkw3t_U5jUVvnxdo5xvuFSqNqzZ_z+QEw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50BC82B9.70802@farrows.org>

On 12/11/2012 01:19, Paul Welsh wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Bit off-topic but thought I'd mention dnswl.org which the spamassassin
> wiki describes here -
> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Rules/RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED - and
> which describes itself as "the leading whitelist provider for email
> filtering".
>
> I was tweaking my spam.assassin.prefs.conf today and noticed
> RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED gets a -2.3 spamassassin score by default.  However,
> on doing some digging I noticed this:
>
> 2012-11-10 11:01:45 1TX8or-0008Fj-1P <= service at santander.co.uk
> H=p02c11o144.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.77] P=esmtps
> X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256 S=3244
> id=FS3rRZ1UbDBRArVc4Iu00000255 at fs3.ellison.local T="YOUR ONLINE
> ACCOUNT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED" from <service at santander.co.uk> for <snip>
>
> This phishing email came from mxlogic.net, now called McAfee SaaS
> Email Protection & Continuity.  dnswl.org gives mxlogic.net a
> classification of:
> "Medium	Rare spam occurrences, corrected promptly."
>
> Fair enough, this is doubtless one of those rare occurrences but I
> just thought I'd highlight that phishing does appear to be getting
> through mxlogic.net and because of dnswl.org's treatment of it,
> spamassassin is subtracting nearly 3 points from its score.
>
> In the case of the phishing mail I saw, it still got picked up as high
> scoring spam and deleted but had the attempts to forge the Outlook
> headers been better and/or had I given RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED a higher
> negative score (which I was seriously considering doing), this would
> have been delivered:
>
> Nov 10 11:01:50 mail MailScanner[27602]: Message 1TX8or-0008Fj-1P from
> 208.65.144.77 (service at santander.co.uk) to <snip> is spam,
> SpamAssassin (score=10.984, required 6, autolearn=disabled,
> AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_1ECD5 3.26, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK 2.79,
> FORGED_OUTLOOK_HTML 0.00, FROM_MISSPACED 0.00, FROM_MISSP_EH_MATCH
> 0.00, FROM_MISSP_MSFT 0.00, FROM_MISSP_URI 0.00, FROM_MISSP_USER 0.00,
> FSL_NEW_HELO_USER 0.00, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16 1.05, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00,
> HTML_TAG_BALANCE_BODY 0.71, MIME_HTML_ONLY 1.10, MISSING_HEADERS 1.21,
> NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER 0.00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED -2.30, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS 1.62,
> TVD_PH_BODY_ACCOUNTS_PRE 1.53, T_REMOTE_IMAGE 0.01)
> Nov 10 11:01:50 mail MailScanner[27602]: Non-delivery of spam: message
> 1TX8or-0008Fj-1P from service at santander.co.uk to <snip> with subject
> YOUR ONLINE ACCOUNT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED
> Nov 10 11:01:50 mail MailScanner[27602]: Spam Actions: message
> 1TX8or-0008Fj-1P actions are delete
A whitelist entry has to be earned, I trust no one by default and create 
my own whitelists - works for me..




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From mailborder at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 11:26:11 2012
From: mailborder at gmail.com (Mailborder at Gmail)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:26:11 +0100
Subject: dnswl.org and phishing
In-Reply-To: <50BC82B9.70802@farrows.org>
References: <CAA510g6U6-VBHx7SuRkw3t_U5jUVvnxdo5xvuFSqNqzZ_z+QEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<50BC82B9.70802@farrows.org>
Message-ID: <CANK23U3dOf8vmE=_UpP_jGq_pqutZfizG=ECMg+Kv82Fh37hWA@mail.gmail.com>

While disconcerting, the email itself still scores above 10, which I would
call high-scoring. Has anyone seen something like this get through with a
score under say 3? And if it did, I've seen MS disarm legitimate links on
spam scores under 1.

I agree with Peter though. RBL's, in general, suck. Half my legitimate
email servers make the PBL simply because they reside in Rackspace's IP
address space. So I have to go scrub all these sources to make sure
legitimate resources aren't blacklisted? Yeah ... right .... right here
buddy.


Jerry Benton
http://www.mailborder.com

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Peter Farrow <peter at farrows.org> wrote:

>  On 12/11/2012 01:19, Paul Welsh wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Bit off-topic but thought I'd mention dnswl.org which the spamassassin
> wiki describes here -http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Rules/RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED - and
> which describes itself as "the leading whitelist provider for email
> filtering".
>
> I was tweaking my spam.assassin.prefs.conf today and noticed
> RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED gets a -2.3 spamassassin score by default.  However,
> on doing some digging I noticed this:
>
> 2012-11-10 11:01:45 1TX8or-0008Fj-1P <= service at santander.co.uk
> H=p02c11o144.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.77] P=esmtps
> X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256 S=3244id=FS3rRZ1UbDBRArVc4Iu00000255 at fs3.ellison.local T="YOUR ONLINE
> ACCOUNT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED" from <service at santander.co.uk> <service at santander.co.uk> for <snip>
>
> This phishing email came from mxlogic.net, now called McAfee SaaS
> Email Protection & Continuity.  dnswl.org gives mxlogic.net a
> classification of:
> "Medium	Rare spam occurrences, corrected promptly."
>
> Fair enough, this is doubtless one of those rare occurrences but I
> just thought I'd highlight that phishing does appear to be getting
> through mxlogic.net and because of dnswl.org's treatment of it,
> spamassassin is subtracting nearly 3 points from its score.
>
> In the case of the phishing mail I saw, it still got picked up as high
> scoring spam and deleted but had the attempts to forge the Outlook
> headers been better and/or had I given RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED a higher
> negative score (which I was seriously considering doing), this would
> have been delivered:
>
> Nov 10 11:01:50 mail MailScanner[27602]: Message 1TX8or-0008Fj-1P from
> 208.65.144.77 (service at santander.co.uk) to <snip> is spam,
> SpamAssassin (score=10.984, required 6, autolearn=disabled,
> AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_1ECD5 3.26, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK 2.79,
> FORGED_OUTLOOK_HTML 0.00, FROM_MISSPACED 0.00, FROM_MISSP_EH_MATCH
> 0.00, FROM_MISSP_MSFT 0.00, FROM_MISSP_URI 0.00, FROM_MISSP_USER 0.00,
> FSL_NEW_HELO_USER 0.00, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16 1.05, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00,
> HTML_TAG_BALANCE_BODY 0.71, MIME_HTML_ONLY 1.10, MISSING_HEADERS 1.21,
> NSL_RCVD_FROM_USER 0.00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED -2.30, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS 1.62,
> TVD_PH_BODY_ACCOUNTS_PRE 1.53, T_REMOTE_IMAGE 0.01)
> Nov 10 11:01:50 mail MailScanner[27602]: Non-delivery of spam: message
> 1TX8or-0008Fj-1P from service at santander.co.uk to <snip> with subject
> YOUR ONLINE ACCOUNT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED
> Nov 10 11:01:50 mail MailScanner[27602]: Spam Actions: message
> 1TX8or-0008Fj-1P actions are delete
>
>  A whitelist entry has to be earned, I trust no one by default and create
> my own whitelists - works for me..
>
>
>
>
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From Kevin_Miller at ci.juneau.ak.us  Mon Dec  3 19:35:57 2012
From: Kevin_Miller at ci.juneau.ak.us (Kevin Miller)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:35:57 -0900
Subject: update_bad_phishing_sites failing...
Message-ID: <4A09477D575C2C4B86497161427DD94C27AA6E70BD@city-exchange07>

Anyone else seeing this:
====================================================
running hourly cronjob scripts

SCRIPT: update_bad_phishing_sites exited with RETURNCODE = 2.
====================================================

Going to http://cdn.mailscanner.info/ (the address mentioned in the script) in my browser displays a MailScanner logo and a google ad.  Not sure if that's what's normally displayed...

Started here this weekend...

 ...Kevin
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From jethro.binks at strath.ac.uk  Tue Dec  4 10:41:33 2012
From: jethro.binks at strath.ac.uk (Jethro R Binks)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 10:41:33 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: dnswl.org and phishing
In-Reply-To: <CANK23U3dOf8vmE=_UpP_jGq_pqutZfizG=ECMg+Kv82Fh37hWA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA510g6U6-VBHx7SuRkw3t_U5jUVvnxdo5xvuFSqNqzZ_z+QEw@mail.gmail.com>
	<50BC82B9.70802@farrows.org>
	<CANK23U3dOf8vmE=_UpP_jGq_pqutZfizG=ECMg+Kv82Fh37hWA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.02.1212041037420.3154@qrswnz.pp.fgengu.np.hx>

On Mon, 3 Dec 2012, Mailborder at Gmail wrote:

> I agree with Peter though. RBL's, in general, suck. Half my legitimate 
> email servers make the PBL simply because they reside in Rackspace's IP 
> address space. So I have to go scrub all these sources to make sure 
> legitimate resources aren't blacklisted? Yeah ... right .... right here 
> buddy.

The theory goes, that as a customer suffering the inconvenience of others 
in your address space being insecure or causing issues, you exert pressure 
on your hosting provider to ensure that they only host reputable and 
secure operations, and take swift action when problems occur.  If your 
hosting provider isn't doing that, then you maybe consider taking your 
business elsewhere.

Jethro.

.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
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Information Services Directorate, University Of Strathclyde, Glasgow, UK

The University of Strathclyde is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, number SC015263.

From maillists at conactive.com  Tue Dec  4 14:28:41 2012
From: maillists at conactive.com (Kai Schaetzl)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:28:41 +0100
Subject: update_bad_phishing_sites failing...
In-Reply-To: <4A09477D575C2C4B86497161427DD94C27AA6E70BD@city-exchange07>
References: <4A09477D575C2C4B86497161427DD94C27AA6E70BD@city-exchange07>
Message-ID: <VA.00003f8e.04d4042a@news.conactive.com>

Kevin Miller wrote on Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:35:57 -0900:

> Going to http://cdn.mailscanner.info (the address mentioned in the
> script)

It's (currently) http://cdn.mailscanner.info/2012-492 and appears to be 
working on my setups.

Kai

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From Kevin_Miller at ci.juneau.ak.us  Tue Dec  4 17:57:33 2012
From: Kevin_Miller at ci.juneau.ak.us (Kevin Miller)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:57:33 -0900
Subject: update_bad_phishing_sites failing...
In-Reply-To: <VA.00003f8e.04d4042a@news.conactive.com>
References: <4A09477D575C2C4B86497161427DD94C27AA6E70BD@city-exchange07>
	<VA.00003f8e.04d4042a@news.conactive.com>
Message-ID: <4A09477D575C2C4B86497161427DD94C27AA6E7120@city-exchange07>

Thanks Kai,
It seems to be working here again.  Don't know if it's the phase of the moon or if someone fixed it but all's well.

 ...Kevin
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-----Original Message-----
From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Kai Schaetzl
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 5:29 AM
To: mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
Subject: Re: update_bad_phishing_sites failing...

Kevin Miller wrote on Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:35:57 -0900:

> Going to http://cdn.mailscanner.info (the address mentioned in the
> script)

It's (currently) http://cdn.mailscanner.info/2012-492 and appears to be working on my setups.

Kai

From mailscanner at romehosting.com  Mon Dec 10 14:17:06 2012
From: mailscanner at romehosting.com (Dave Gattis)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:17:06 -0500
Subject: Negative scoring MCP rule
Message-ID: <8abd63fad93f356a69dfdfa9b96e949c.squirrel@mail.romehosting.com>

Is it possible to create a rule in MCP that will give a negative score?
I need one to offset a false positive generated by a rule that is required.
Thanks,
-- 
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From doctor at doctor.nl2k.ab.ca  Mon Dec 10 14:53:18 2012
From: doctor at doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 07:53:18 -0700
Subject: Need to update TNEF
Message-ID: <20121210145318.GC15861@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>

All right 

Seems like the TNEF Conversion is broken due to
soething M$ has done.

Can we get COnvert::TNEF and tnef to the most recent versions?

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From pparsons at techeez.com  Mon Dec 10 16:47:39 2012
From: pparsons at techeez.com (Philip Parsons)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:47:39 +0000
Subject: Free Antivirus
Message-ID: <11D8E491D9562549A61FD3186F36342001B42BBD7D@exchange.techeez.com>

Besides ClamAV what other free Antivirus scanners are people using ?


Philip

From raylund.lai at kankanwoo.com  Mon Dec 10 18:10:48 2012
From: raylund.lai at kankanwoo.com (Raylund Lai)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:10:48 -0500
Subject: Free Antivirus
In-Reply-To: <11D8E491D9562549A61FD3186F36342001B42BBD7D@exchange.techeez.com>
References: <11D8E491D9562549A61FD3186F36342001B42BBD7D@exchange.techeez.com>
Message-ID: <009601cdd701$aeae9ab0$0c0bd010$@kankanwoo.com>

f-prot and bitdefender

-Raylund

-----Original Message-----
From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
[mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Philip
Parsons
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 11:48 AM
To: mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
Subject: Free Antivirus

Besides ClamAV what other free Antivirus scanners are people using ?


Philip
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From maillists at conactive.com  Mon Dec 10 19:32:06 2012
From: maillists at conactive.com (Kai Schaetzl)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:32:06 +0100
Subject: Negative scoring MCP rule
In-Reply-To: <8abd63fad93f356a69dfdfa9b96e949c.squirrel@mail.romehosting.com>
References: <8abd63fad93f356a69dfdfa9b96e949c.squirrel@mail.romehosting.com>
Message-ID: <VA.00003f99.24cfad3e@news.conactive.com>

MCP follows the same rules as other SA rules.

Kai

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From axisml at gmail.com  Mon Dec 10 19:47:32 2012
From: axisml at gmail.com (Chris Stone)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:47:32 -0700
Subject: Free Antivirus
In-Reply-To: <009601cdd701$aeae9ab0$0c0bd010$@kankanwoo.com>
References: <11D8E491D9562549A61FD3186F36342001B42BBD7D@exchange.techeez.com>
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I don't believe that f-protect and bitdefender are free. They have free
versions for home users, but - correct me if I am wrong, I believe for any
other use you have to use their commercial versions....


Chris



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Raylund Lai <raylund.lai at kankanwoo.com>wrote:

> f-prot and bitdefender
>
> -Raylund
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
> [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Philip
> Parsons
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 11:48 AM
> To: mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> Subject: Free Antivirus
>
> Besides ClamAV what other free Antivirus scanners are people using ?
>
>
> Philip
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From mailscanner at joolee.nl  Mon Dec 10 19:50:16 2012
From: mailscanner at joolee.nl (Joolee)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:50:16 +0100
Subject: Negative scoring MCP rule
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References: <8abd63fad93f356a69dfdfa9b96e949c.squirrel@mail.romehosting.com>
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As far as I know, the MPC rules syntax is the same as the normal
Spamassassin rules syntax. So, Yes.


On 10 December 2012 15:17, Dave Gattis <mailscanner at romehosting.com> wrote:

> Is it possible to create a rule in MCP that will give a negative score?
> I need one to offset a false positive generated by a rule that is required.
> Thanks,
> --
> Dave Gattis
>
>
>
>
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From mailscanner at romehosting.com  Tue Dec 11 01:27:53 2012
From: mailscanner at romehosting.com (Dave Gattis)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:27:53 -0500
Subject: Negative scoring MCP rule
In-Reply-To: <CA+Q-w8VUo6XTG8xP2YJNnbF6BHdjn5gM68O62O1zJZYnqqxacg@mail.gmail.com>
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This doesn't work.  Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
If the both rules apply, I'd expect an MCP score of -3.

header   SAMPLE_RULE1    Subject =~ /this subject is banned/i
describe SAMPLE_RULE1    Banned Subject
score    SAMPLE_RULE1    2

body     SAMPLE_RULE2    /this text is banned/i
describe SAMPLE_RULE2    Banned body text
score    SAMPLE_RULE2    -5

Thanks,
-- 
Dave Gattis


> As far as I know, the MPC rules syntax is the same as the normal
> Spamassassin rules syntax. So, Yes.
>
>
> On 10 December 2012 15:17, Dave Gattis <mailscanner at romehosting.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to create a rule in MCP that will give a negative score?
>> I need one to offset a false positive generated by a rule that is
>> required.
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Dave Gattis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>
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>>
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From mailborder at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 06:48:22 2012
From: mailborder at gmail.com (Mailborder at Gmail)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:48:22 +0100
Subject: Free Antivirus
In-Reply-To: <CA+mO9gGbOBfGAsFqEZJ43dBNYmSFtTeuS=J9AZrHft7KwgDNog@mail.gmail.com>
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Correct. Free for home use. I was looking at implementing some alternatives
into Mailborder, but it would require additional licensing for customers.
So, ClamAV it is.


Jerry Benton
Mailborder
www.mailborder.com


On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Chris Stone <axisml at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't believe that f-protect and bitdefender are free. They have free
> versions for home users, but - correct me if I am wrong, I believe for any
> other use you have to use their commercial versions....
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Raylund Lai <raylund.lai at kankanwoo.com>wrote:
>
>> f-prot and bitdefender
>>
>> -Raylund
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
>> [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Philip
>> Parsons
>> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 11:48 AM
>> To: mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>> Subject: Free Antivirus
>>
>> Besides ClamAV what other free Antivirus scanners are people using ?
>>
>>
>> Philip
>> --
>> MailScanner mailing list
>> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>
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>>
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>>
>> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> AxisInternet, Inc.
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>
>
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From mailborder at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 06:50:39 2012
From: mailborder at gmail.com (Mailborder at Gmail)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:50:39 +0100
Subject: Need to update TNEF
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References: <20121210145318.GC15861@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
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You can get stuff from 3rd party sites. For example, Red Hat based stuff :
http://pkgs.repoforge.org/tnef/


Jerry Benton
Mailborder
www.mailborder.com



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:53 PM, The Doctor <doctor at doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>wrote:

> All right
>
> Seems like the TNEF Conversion is broken due to
> soething M$ has done.
>
> Can we get COnvert::TNEF and tnef to the most recent versions?
>
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From richard at fastnet.co.uk  Tue Dec 11 09:33:27 2012
From: richard at fastnet.co.uk (Richard Mealing)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:33:27 +0000
Subject: Negative scoring MCP rule
In-Reply-To: <72a2173b72a0ea128af6e25a9d52d6a8.squirrel@mail.romehosting.com>
References: <8abd63fad93f356a69dfdfa9b96e949c.squirrel@mail.romehosting.com>
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Hi Dave,

Maybe you could write a meta rule instead, since I'm not sure if you can write rules that have spaces between the words like that. I've not tested it.
To be sure, just write a meta and see if that works? 

So instead of this - 

header   SAMPLE_RULE1    Subject =~ /this subject is banned/i
describe SAMPLE_RULE1    Banned Subject
score    SAMPLE_RULE1    2

I'd do this - 

header  Samplerule1 Subject =~ /\bthis\b/i
header Samplerule2 Subject =~ /\bsubject\b/i
header Samplerule3 Subject =~ /\bis\b/i
header Samplerule4 Subject =~ /\bbanned\b/i
meta localsamplemeta1 (__Samplerule1 && __Samplerule2 && __Samplerule3 && __Samplerule4)
score localsamplemeta1 2
describe localsamplemeta1 subj this subj subject subj is subj banned

I could be wrong :-(

Cheers,

--Rich






-----Original Message-----
From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Dave Gattis
Sent: 11 December 2012 01:28
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: Re: Negative scoring MCP rule

This doesn't work.  Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
If the both rules apply, I'd expect an MCP score of -3.

header   SAMPLE_RULE1    Subject =~ /this subject is banned/i
describe SAMPLE_RULE1    Banned Subject
score    SAMPLE_RULE1    2

body     SAMPLE_RULE2    /this text is banned/i
describe SAMPLE_RULE2    Banned body text
score    SAMPLE_RULE2    -5

Thanks,
-- 
Dave Gattis


> As far as I know, the MPC rules syntax is the same as the normal
> Spamassassin rules syntax. So, Yes.
>
>
> On 10 December 2012 15:17, Dave Gattis <mailscanner at romehosting.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to create a rule in MCP that will give a negative score?
>> I need one to offset a false positive generated by a rule that is
>> required.
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Dave Gattis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> MailScanner mailing list
>> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>
>> Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>>
>> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>>
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>
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From glenn.steen at gmail.com  Tue Dec 11 09:43:14 2012
From: glenn.steen at gmail.com (Glenn Steen)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:43:14 +0100
Subject: Negative scoring MCP rule
In-Reply-To: <8abd63fad93f356a69dfdfa9b96e949c.squirrel@mail.romehosting.com>
References: <8abd63fad93f356a69dfdfa9b96e949c.squirrel@mail.romehosting.com>
Message-ID: <CAAug_B8RKdrue1h+0FUDDw_zf6C_SKiZpkcojdg8X_TW3B4=Zw@mail.gmail.com>

On 10 December 2012 15:17, Dave Gattis <mailscanner at romehosting.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to create a rule in MCP that will give a negative score?
> I need one to offset a false positive generated by a rule that is required.
> Thanks,
> --
> Dave Gattis
>
I suppose so, but ... I'd work with SpamAssassin rule hits instead,
since then you'd dispense with the second invocation of SpamAssassin,
and get pretty much the same type of functionality.

Cheers
-- 
-- Glenn
email: glenn < dot > steen < at > gmail < dot > com
work: glenn < dot > steen < at > ap1 < dot > se

From richard at fastnet.co.uk  Tue Dec 11 11:58:16 2012
From: richard at fastnet.co.uk (Richard Mealing)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:58:16 +0000
Subject: FW: Negative scoring MCP rule
References: <8abd63fad93f356a69dfdfa9b96e949c.squirrel@mail.romehosting.com>
	<CA+Q-w8VUo6XTG8xP2YJNnbF6BHdjn5gM68O62O1zJZYnqqxacg@mail.gmail.com>
	<72a2173b72a0ea128af6e25a9d52d6a8.squirrel@mail.romehosting.com> 
Message-ID: <1251B5423222C446A299CABAA7B46FF4098FB7FA@fn-exchange.fastnet.local>

That was wrong!

This would be correct!

header  __Samplerule1 Subject =~ /\bthis\b/i 

header __Samplerule2 Subject =~ /\bsubject\b/i 

header __Samplerule3 Subject =~ /\bis\b/i 

header __Samplerule4 Subject =~ /\bbanned\b/i 

meta localsamplemeta1 (__Samplerule1 && __Samplerule2 && __Samplerule3 && __Samplerule4) 

score localsamplemeta1 2 describe localsamplemeta1 subj this subj subject subj is subj banned


--Rich



-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Mealing 
Sent: 11 December 2012 09:33
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: RE: Negative scoring MCP rule

Hi Dave,

Maybe you could write a meta rule instead, since I'm not sure if you can write rules that have spaces between the words like that. I've not tested it.
To be sure, just write a meta and see if that works? 

So instead of this - 

header   SAMPLE_RULE1    Subject =~ /this subject is banned/i
describe SAMPLE_RULE1    Banned Subject
score    SAMPLE_RULE1    2

I'd do this - 

header  Samplerule1 Subject =~ /\bthis\b/i header Samplerule2 Subject =~ /\bsubject\b/i header Samplerule3 Subject =~ /\bis\b/i header Samplerule4 Subject =~ /\bbanned\b/i meta localsamplemeta1 (__Samplerule1 && __Samplerule2 && __Samplerule3 && __Samplerule4) score localsamplemeta1 2 describe localsamplemeta1 subj this subj subject subj is subj banned

I could be wrong :-(

Cheers,

--Rich






-----Original Message-----
From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Dave Gattis
Sent: 11 December 2012 01:28
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: Re: Negative scoring MCP rule

This doesn't work.  Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
If the both rules apply, I'd expect an MCP score of -3.

header   SAMPLE_RULE1    Subject =~ /this subject is banned/i
describe SAMPLE_RULE1    Banned Subject
score    SAMPLE_RULE1    2

body     SAMPLE_RULE2    /this text is banned/i
describe SAMPLE_RULE2    Banned body text
score    SAMPLE_RULE2    -5

Thanks,
--
Dave Gattis


> As far as I know, the MPC rules syntax is the same as the normal
> Spamassassin rules syntax. So, Yes.
>
>
> On 10 December 2012 15:17, Dave Gattis <mailscanner at romehosting.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to create a rule in MCP that will give a negative score?
>> I need one to offset a false positive generated by a rule that is
>> required.
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Dave Gattis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>
>> Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>>
>> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>>
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>
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From maillists at conactive.com  Tue Dec 11 18:05:04 2012
From: maillists at conactive.com (Kai Schaetzl)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:05:04 +0100
Subject: Negative scoring MCP rule
In-Reply-To: <1251B5423222C446A299CABAA7B46FF4098FB7FA@fn-exchange.fastnet.local>
References: <8abd63fad93f356a69dfdfa9b96e949c.squirrel@mail.romehosting.com>
	<CA+Q-w8VUo6XTG8xP2YJNnbF6BHdjn5gM68O62O1zJZYnqqxacg@mail.gmail.com>
	<72a2173b72a0ea128af6e25a9d52d6a8.squirrel@mail.romehosting.com>
	<1251B5423222C446A299CABAA7B46FF4098FB7FA@fn-exchange.fastnet.local>
Message-ID: <VA.00003fae.29a65d4e@news.conactive.com>

Actually both are wrong. There's no point for regexp if you could use only 
"one word". Forget this method immediately!
One might want to use a meta rule for the original two rules, though. 
Depends on the purpose.
And beware of short-circuiting in SA. In that case the second rule may not 
hit!

Kai

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From AHKAPLAN at partners.org  Thu Dec 13 13:30:43 2012
From: AHKAPLAN at partners.org (Kaplan, Andrew H.)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:30:43 +0000
Subject: Problem Messages email notification
Message-ID: <4E194A85C5A6CF4E88D0E7635770CAD51359634E@PHSX10MB6.partners.org>

Hello --

One of our servers is running MailScanner 4.84.5.

I received the following e-mail on Tuesday of this week:

Archive:

Number of messages: 1
Tries   Message Last Tried
=====   ======= ==========
6       qBBNAC4N009607  Tue Dec 11 18:32:56 2012

I looked into the matter, and I discovered the message in question had been
placed in the /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine directory. I removed the message
from the directory to prevent it from potentially harming the system. It should
be noted there is also a phishingdate folder in the same directory, which has not
been touched by the administrator.

The e-mail continues to appear even though the message in question has long
since been deleted from the server. Why would the e-mail continue to appear, and
what can I do to stop it from sending this false positive?

Thanks.





The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail
contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at
http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly
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From john.clancy at businessworld.ie  Thu Dec 13 14:03:46 2012
From: john.clancy at businessworld.ie (John Clancy)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:03:46 -0000
Subject: Problem Messages email notification
References: <4E194A85C5A6CF4E88D0E7635770CAD51359634E@PHSX10MB6.partners.org>
Message-ID: <013501cdd93a$ab117130$696078c1@JCSPC>

I seem to remember finding something like that in my own admin emails a while back.

I fixed it at the time by stopping mailscanner and removing the file /var/spool/MailScanner/incoming/Processing.db and then restarting mailscanner.

In certain circumstances (I wish I knew what they are) the message will be correctly moved to the quarantine folder but the details stay in Processing.db, since the email itself is no longer in the queue I guess that the instruction deleting the details from Processing.db is never issued so mailscanner will keep sending the "Tries | Message Last Trieed" email until the details are removed from Processing.db.

Some of the other, and far more expert, contributors will probably be able to tell you how to remove this message from Processing.db without deleting it but deleting the file works fine.

JC
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kaplan, Andrew H. 
  To: MailScanner discussion 
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 1:30 PM
  Subject: Problem Messages email notification


  Hello --

  One of our servers is running MailScanner 4.84.5. 

  I received the following e-mail on Tuesday of this week:

  Archive:

  Number of messages: 1
  Tries   Message Last Tried
  =====   ======= ==========
  6       qBBNAC4N009607  Tue Dec 11 18:32:56 2012

  I looked into the matter, and I discovered the message in question had been 
  placed in the /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine directory. I removed the message
  from the directory to prevent it from potentially harming the system. It should
  be noted there is also a phishingdate folder in the same directory, which has not
  been touched by the administrator. 

  The e-mail continues to appear even though the message in question has long 
  since been deleted from the server. Why would the e-mail continue to appear, and
  what can I do to stop it from sending this false positive?

  Thanks. 




  The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is
  addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail
  contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at
  http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
  but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly
  dispose of the e-mail.



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From nosnibordrawoh at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Dec 14 09:26:58 2012
From: nosnibordrawoh at yahoo.co.uk (Howard Robinson)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:26:58 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Problem Messages stripping some emails of jpg
In-Reply-To: <013501cdd93a$ab117130$696078c1@JCSPC>
References: <4E194A85C5A6CF4E88D0E7635770CAD51359634E@PHSX10MB6.partners.org>
	<013501cdd93a$ab117130$696078c1@JCSPC>
Message-ID: <1355477218.18520.YahooMailNeo@web29903.mail.ird.yahoo.com>



All
I've been asked to allow through html email to a particular domain and from a particular server, via mailScanner.

To test this I have an account off site at live at edu
All email goes via Mailscanner then on to a MS Exchange DAG at work.

On the Mailscanner running Centos there is an aliases file
For my test account I have two entries both point to the same account on exchange
a:????a at ex.mydomin
b:????a at ex.mydomain
?
I've newaliase'd to make sure that they are correct.
?
?
If I send an html email with image in the body of the email from the off site account to a at mydomain it gets through to Exchange intact. 
If I do the same?to b at mydomain it gets through BUT the ?image is as an attachment.
?
That suggest that the Aliases file is correct and as B at mydomin is rejected if it's not in aliases that?supports that.
?
I have had a look through all the rule and conf files and removed any 'To:' references to a at mydomain and b at mydomain restarted MailScanner several times and it consitantly does the above.
?
When I look at /var/log/maillog every time I send a test message to b at mydomain it has the line 'Contents Checks: Detected and will convert HTML message to Plain text in 'messagenumber'.'
?
If I send the message to a at mydomain that line is not present. Something is telling MailScanner to ignore a at mydomain but not B at mydomain?
?
This suggests to me that one of the rule files for html should have a line either allowing a at mydomain or disallowing b at mydomain.
I have been through every rule and removed any reference to either address.
I have been through every .conf. the rules are where they should be and Mailscanner is set to look in the right directory.
?
Is there any other rule that might be kicking in?
Is it likely that because things like address books for our exchange are visable at our live at edu domain that email a at mydomain is being treated differently by Mailscanner?
?
I've shut down and restarted the MailScanner server but still the same.
?
I suspect I'm missing something blatantly obvious but I've gome around in circle for the last day and need to sort this.
?
Any ideas out there.
?
Thanks
Howard?
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From maxsec at gmail.com  Fri Dec 14 13:53:03 2012
From: maxsec at gmail.com (Martin Hepworth)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:53:03 +0000
Subject: Problem Messages stripping some emails of jpg
In-Reply-To: <1355477218.18520.YahooMailNeo@web29903.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <4E194A85C5A6CF4E88D0E7635770CAD51359634E@PHSX10MB6.partners.org>
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and you've used grep in the rules directory and against mailscanner.conf to
look for b at mydomain.com?

anything else in the full headers on arrival that indicates a differetn
path?

-- 
Martin Hepworth, CISSP
Oxford, UK



On 14 December 2012 09:26, Howard Robinson <nosnibordrawoh at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

>
>  All
> I've been asked to allow through html email to a particular domain and
> from a particular server, via mailScanner.
>
> To test this I have an account off site at live at edu
> All email goes via Mailscanner then on to a MS Exchange DAG at work.
>
> On the Mailscanner running Centos there is an aliases file
> For my test account I have two entries both point to the same account on
> exchange
> a:    a at ex.mydomin
> b:    a at ex.mydomain
>
> I've newaliase'd to make sure that they are correct.
>
>
> If I send an html email with image in the body of the email from the off
> site account to a at mydomain it gets through to Exchange intact.
> If I do the same to b at mydomain <b at mydomain> it gets through BUT the
>  image is as an attachment.
>
> That suggest that the Aliases file is correct and as B at mydomin is
> rejected if it's not in aliases that supports that.
>
> I have had a look through all the rule and conf files and removed any
> 'To:' references to a at mydomain and b at mydomain <b at mydomain> restarted
> MailScanner several times and it consitantly does the above.
>
> When I look at /var/log/maillog every time I send a test message to
> b at mydomain it has the line 'Contents Checks: Detected and will convert
> HTML message to Plain text in 'messagenumber'.'
>
> If I send the message to a at mydomain that line is not present. Something
> is telling MailScanner to ignore a at mydomain but not B at mydomain
>
> This suggests to me that one of the rule files for html should have a line
> either allowing a at mydomain or disallowing b at mydomain.
> I have been through every rule and removed any reference to either address.
> I have been through every .conf. the rules are where they should be and
> Mailscanner is set to look in the right directory.
>
> Is there any other rule that might be kicking in?
> Is it likely that because things like address books for our exchange are
> visable at our live at edu domain that email a at mydomain is being treated
> differently by Mailscanner?
>
> I've shut down and restarted the MailScanner server but still the same.
>
> I suspect I'm missing something blatantly obvious but I've gome around in
> circle for the last day and need to sort this.
>
> Any ideas out there.
>
> Thanks
> Howard
>
>
>
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From nosnibordrawoh at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Dec 14 15:23:27 2012
From: nosnibordrawoh at yahoo.co.uk (Howard Robinson)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:23:27 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Problem Messages stripping some emails of jpg
In-Reply-To: <1355477218.18520.YahooMailNeo@web29903.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <4E194A85C5A6CF4E88D0E7635770CAD51359634E@PHSX10MB6.partners.org>
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	<1355477218.18520.YahooMailNeo@web29903.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1355498607.37279.YahooMailNeo@web29906.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Further to the email below
I put b at mydomain in the converthtml.rules 
To: b at mydomin????no
and email to that now goes through (as I would have expected)
BUT email to a at mydomain is not in that rule and still goes through intact.
?
FromorTo: ????default????yes
is the last line in the rule
Tabs not spaces obviously!
?

To check I 'remmed' the line restarted MailScanner and it separated out the image as an attachment for B@ but not a at .
Unremmed restarted and it sent the image as part of the email body.

So the question is why does it treat a at mydomain differently from b at mydomain even though they are aliase to the same address?

Any ideas anyone?

I think I need tea!
?
?
Regards

?
Howard


>________________________________
>From: Howard Robinson <nosnibordrawoh at yahoo.co.uk>
>To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info> 
>Sent: Friday, 14 December 2012, 9:26
>Subject: Problem Messages stripping some emails of jpg
>
>
>
>
>All
>I've been asked to allow through html email to a particular domain and from a particular server, via mailScanner.
>
>To test this I have an account off site at live at edu
>All email goes via Mailscanner then on to a MS Exchange DAG at work.
>
>On the Mailscanner running Centos there is an aliases file
>For my test account I have two entries both point to the same account on exchange
>a:????a at ex.mydomin
>b:????a at ex.mydomain
>?
>I've newaliase'd to make sure that they are correct.
>?
>?
>If I send an html email with image in the body of the email from the off site account to a at mydomain it gets through to Exchange intact. 
>If I do the same?to b at mydomain it gets through BUT the ?image is as an attachment.
>?
>That suggest that the Aliases file is correct and as B at mydomin is rejected if it's not in aliases that?supports that.
>?
>I have had a look through all the rule and conf files and removed any 'To:' references to a at mydomain and b at mydomain restarted MailScanner several times and it consitantly does the above.
>?
>When I look at /var/log/maillog every time I send a test message to b at mydomain it has the line 'Contents Checks: Detected and will convert HTML message to Plain text in 'messagenumber'.'
>?
>If I send the message to a at mydomain that line is not present. Something is telling MailScanner to ignore a at mydomain but not B at mydomain?
>?
>This suggests to me that one of the rule files for html should have a line either allowing a at mydomain or disallowing b at mydomain.
>I have been through every rule and removed any reference to either address.
>I have been through every .conf. the rules are where they should be and Mailscanner is set to look in the right directory.
>?
>Is there any other rule that might be kicking in?
>Is it likely that because things like address books for our exchange are visable at our live at edu domain that email a at mydomain is being treated differently by Mailscanner?
>?
>I've shut down and restarted the MailScanner server but still the same.
>?
>I suspect I'm missing something blatantly obvious but I've gome around in circle for the last day and need to sort this.
>?
>Any ideas out there.
>?
>Thanks
>Howard?
>?
>?
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From nosnibordrawoh at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Dec 14 15:31:54 2012
From: nosnibordrawoh at yahoo.co.uk (Howard Robinson)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:31:54 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Problem Messages stripping some emails of jpg
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References: <4E194A85C5A6CF4E88D0E7635770CAD51359634E@PHSX10MB6.partners.org>
	<013501cdd93a$ab117130$696078c1@JCSPC>
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Message-ID: <1355499114.79055.YahooMailNeo@web29903.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hi Martin
Thanks for your reply
?
Yes 'grepped' ?in rules and mailscanner.conf and apart from change mentioned in previous email (overlapping this one)
?ie adding To: b at mydomin?no
?in the converthtml.rules file restart and succeful, remmed out and failed. but a at mydomin works regardless.


I can't see any other reference to either address in any rule or conf files
?
Regards


Howard


>________________________________
>From: Martin Hepworth <maxsec at gmail.com>
>To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info> 
>Sent: Friday, 14 December 2012, 13:53
>Subject: Re: Problem Messages stripping some emails of jpg
>
>
>and you've used grep in the rules directory and against mailscanner.conf to look for b at mydomain.com?
>
>anything else in the full headers on arrival that indicates a differetn path?
>
>
>-- 
>Martin Hepworth, CISSP
>Oxford, UK
>
>
>
>On 14 December 2012 09:26, Howard Robinson <nosnibordrawoh at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>All
>>I've been asked to allow through html email to a particular domain and from a particular server, via mailScanner.
>>
>>To test this I have an account off site at live at edu
>>All email goes via Mailscanner then on to a MS Exchange DAG at work.
>>
>>On the Mailscanner running Centos there is an aliases file
>>For my test account I have two entries both point to the same account on exchange
>>a:????a at ex.mydomin
>>b:????a at ex.mydomain
>>?
>>I've newaliase'd to make sure that they are correct.
>>?
>>?
>>If I send an html email with image in the body of the email from the off site account to a at mydomain it gets through to Exchange intact. 
>>If I do the same?to b at mydomain it gets through BUT the ?image is as an attachment.
>>?
>>That suggest that the Aliases file is correct and as B at mydomin is rejected if it's not in aliases that?supports that.
>>?
>>I have had a look through all the rule and conf files and removed any 'To:' references to a at mydomain and b at mydomain restarted MailScanner several times and it consitantly does the above.
>>?
>>When I look at /var/log/maillog every time I send a test message to b at mydomain it has the line 'Contents Checks: Detected and will convert HTML message to Plain text in 'messagenumber'.'
>>?
>>If I send the message to a at mydomain that line is not present. Something is telling MailScanner to ignore a at mydomain but not B at mydomain?
>>?
>>This suggests to me that one of the rule files for html should have a line either allowing a at mydomain or disallowing b at mydomain.
>>I have been through every rule and removed any reference to either address.
>>I have been through every .conf. the rules are where they should be and Mailscanner is set to look in the right directory.
>>?
>>Is there any other rule that might be kicking in?
>>Is it likely that because things like address books for our exchange are visable at our live at edu domain that email a at mydomain is being treated differently by Mailscanner?
>>?
>>I've shut down and restarted the MailScanner server but still the same.
>>?
>>I suspect I'm missing something blatantly obvious but I've gome around in circle for the last day and need to sort this.
>>?
>>Any ideas out there.
>>?
>>ThanksHoward?
>>?
>>?
>>--
>>MailScanner mailing list
>>mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>>http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>
>>Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>>
>>Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>>
>>
>
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From AHKAPLAN at partners.org  Fri Dec 14 17:42:06 2012
From: AHKAPLAN at partners.org (Kaplan, Andrew H.)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:42:06 +0000
Subject: Problem Messages email notification
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Hello --

Thanks for your reply. I went ahead with your suggestion, and after a monitoring the server for a day, the e-mail in question has not reappeared.

Thanks again for the help.


________________________________
From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of John Clancy
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:04 AM
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: Re: Problem Messages email notification

I seem to remember finding something like that in my own admin emails a while back.

I fixed it at the time by stopping mailscanner and removing the file /var/spool/MailScanner/incoming/Processing.db and then restarting mailscanner.

In certain circumstances (I wish I knew what they are) the message will be correctly moved to the quarantine folder but the details stay in Processing.db, since the email itself is no longer in the queue I guess that the instruction deleting the details from Processing.db is never issued so mailscanner will keep sending the "Tries | Message Last Trieed" email until the details are removed from Processing.db.

Some of the other, and far more expert, contributors will probably be able to tell you how to remove this message from Processing.db without deleting it but deleting the file works fine.

JC
----- Original Message -----
From: Kaplan, Andrew H.<mailto:AHKAPLAN at partners.org>
To: MailScanner discussion<mailto:mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: Problem Messages email notification

Hello --

One of our servers is running MailScanner 4.84.5.

I received the following e-mail on Tuesday of this week:

Archive:

Number of messages: 1
Tries   Message Last Tried
=====   ======= ==========
6       qBBNAC4N009607  Tue Dec 11 18:32:56 2012

I looked into the matter, and I discovered the message in question had been
placed in the /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine directory. I removed the message
from the directory to prevent it from potentially harming the system. It should
be noted there is also a phishingdate folder in the same directory, which has not
been touched by the administrator.

The e-mail continues to appear even though the message in question has long
since been deleted from the server. Why would the e-mail continue to appear, and
what can I do to stop it from sending this false positive?

Thanks.




The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail
contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at
http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly
dispose of the e-mail.

________________________________

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From Ove at itandnet.co.uk  Mon Dec 17 09:37:42 2012
From: Ove at itandnet.co.uk (Ove JK. Evensen)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:37:42 +0000
Subject: Mailscanner restarts after Spamassasin finds spam
Message-ID: <245806C7A526C84EBBF2730AE305E45505386A31@MailMan.itandnet.local>

Hi all

I have to CentOS mashines running in MS Azure cloud that are running this as a spam filter/relay:

CentOS release 6.2 
Perl version 5.10.1
Postfix version 2.9.4
MailScanner version 4.84.5
ClamAV 0.97.6
PHP Version = 5.3.3
MySQL Version = 5.1.61
MailWatch Version = 1.2.0

The problem is that when  SpamAssasin finds a spam it kills mailscanner.
The Strange part it When I set debug = yes and debug spamassasin= yes  in MailScanner.conf it does NOT kill mailscanner. 
So I have nothing to go on to try to fix this.

Normal log entery:  
Dec 17 09:14:54 mta02-ian MailScanner: Process did not exit cleanly, returned 255 with signal 0 (sometimes it returned 2 and not 255)
Dec 17 09:14:54 mta02-ian MailScanner[2082]: Spam Checks: Found 1 spam messages
Dec 17 09:14:49 mta02-ian MailScanner[2082]: Virus and Content Scanning: Starting


Email i get about the message that killed Mailscanner:  
 Subject: test 2
 MessageID: E2DA912D839.A64D9
Quarantine: /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine/20121217/E2DA912D839.A64D9
    Report: MailScanner: Message attempted to kill MailScanner

So any help in pointing me in the right direction to fix this would be greatly appreciated:

Thank you all for taking time reading my email and happy XMAS to you all !  


OVE JK. EVENSEN?|?CHIEF ENGINEER



Unit 1, Stratford Office Village, Romford Road, Stratford, E15 4EA
TEL.?+44 (0)20 8503 1169?|?MOB.?+44 (0)7908 994650?|?WEB.?www.itandnet.co.uk




From mailscanner at joolee.nl  Mon Dec 17 10:38:59 2012
From: mailscanner at joolee.nl (Joolee)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:38:59 +0100
Subject: Mailscanner restarts after Spamassasin finds spam
In-Reply-To: <245806C7A526C84EBBF2730AE305E45505386A31@MailMan.itandnet.local>
References: <245806C7A526C84EBBF2730AE305E45505386A31@MailMan.itandnet.local>
Message-ID: <CA+Q-w8U2HwHa59QqiofoSbRP0VtbayC0-kLacDN86f6kmVzhLw@mail.gmail.com>

Are you running MailScanner with the -U switch?


On 17 December 2012 10:37, Ove JK. Evensen <Ove at itandnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I have to CentOS mashines running in MS Azure cloud that are running this
> as a spam filter/relay:
>
> CentOS release 6.2
> Perl version 5.10.1
> Postfix version 2.9.4
> MailScanner version 4.84.5
> ClamAV 0.97.6
> PHP Version = 5.3.3
> MySQL Version = 5.1.61
> MailWatch Version = 1.2.0
>
> The problem is that when  SpamAssasin finds a spam it kills mailscanner.
> The Strange part it When I set debug = yes and debug spamassasin= yes  in
> MailScanner.conf it does NOT kill mailscanner.
> So I have nothing to go on to try to fix this.
>
> Normal log entery:
> Dec 17 09:14:54 mta02-ian MailScanner: Process did not exit cleanly,
> returned 255 with signal 0 (sometimes it returned 2 and not 255)
> Dec 17 09:14:54 mta02-ian MailScanner[2082]: Spam Checks: Found 1 spam
> messages
> Dec 17 09:14:49 mta02-ian MailScanner[2082]: Virus and Content Scanning:
> Starting
>
>
> Email i get about the message that killed Mailscanner:
>  Subject: test 2
>  MessageID: E2DA912D839.A64D9
> Quarantine: /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine/20121217/E2DA912D839.A64D9
>     Report: MailScanner: Message attempted to kill MailScanner
>
> So any help in pointing me in the right direction to fix this would be
> greatly appreciated:
>
> Thank you all for taking time reading my email and happy XMAS to you all !
>
>
> OVE JK. EVENSEN | CHIEF ENGINEER
>
>
>
> Unit 1, Stratford Office Village, Romford Road, Stratford, E15 4EA
> TEL. +44 (0)20 8503 1169 | MOB. +44 (0)7908 994650 | WEB.
> www.itandnet.co.uk
>
>
>
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From Ove at itandnet.co.uk  Mon Dec 17 11:24:58 2012
From: Ove at itandnet.co.uk (Ove JK. Evensen)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:24:58 +0000
Subject: Mailscanner restarts after Spamassasin finds spam
In-Reply-To: <CA+Q-w8U2HwHa59QqiofoSbRP0VtbayC0-kLacDN86f6kmVzhLw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <245806C7A526C84EBBF2730AE305E45505386A31@MailMan.itandnet.local>
	<CA+Q-w8U2HwHa59QqiofoSbRP0VtbayC0-kLacDN86f6kmVzhLw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <245806C7A526C84EBBF2730AE305E45505386B5D@MailMan.itandnet.local>

Have not, will read about the ?U switch and try that.


OVE JK. EVENSEN | CHIEF ENGINEER

From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Joolee
Sent: 17 December 2012 10:39
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: Re: Mailscanner restarts after Spamassasin finds spam

Are you running MailScanner with the -U switch?

On 17 December 2012 10:37, Ove JK. Evensen <Ove at itandnet.co.uk<mailto:Ove at itandnet.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi all

I have to CentOS mashines running in MS Azure cloud that are running this as a spam filter/relay:

CentOS release 6.2
Perl version 5.10.1
Postfix version 2.9.4
MailScanner version 4.84.5
ClamAV 0.97.6
PHP Version = 5.3.3
MySQL Version = 5.1.61
MailWatch Version = 1.2.0

The problem is that when  SpamAssasin finds a spam it kills mailscanner.
The Strange part it When I set debug = yes and debug spamassasin= yes  in MailScanner.conf it does NOT kill mailscanner.
So I have nothing to go on to try to fix this.

Normal log entery:
Dec 17 09:14:54 mta02-ian MailScanner: Process did not exit cleanly, returned 255 with signal 0 (sometimes it returned 2 and not 255)
Dec 17 09:14:54 mta02-ian MailScanner[2082]: Spam Checks: Found 1 spam messages
Dec 17 09:14:49 mta02-ian MailScanner[2082]: Virus and Content Scanning: Starting


Email i get about the message that killed Mailscanner:
 Subject: test 2
 MessageID: E2DA912D839.A64D9
Quarantine: /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine/20121217/E2DA912D839.A64D9
    Report: MailScanner: Message attempted to kill MailScanner

So any help in pointing me in the right direction to fix this would be greatly appreciated:

Thank you all for taking time reading my email and happy XMAS to you all !


OVE JK. EVENSEN | CHIEF ENGINEER



Unit 1, Stratford Office Village, Romford Road, Stratford, E15 4EA
TEL. +44 (0)20 8503 1169 | MOB. +44 (0)7908 994650 | WEB. www.itandnet.co.uk<http://www.itandnet.co.uk>



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From Ove at itandnet.co.uk  Mon Dec 17 11:32:51 2012
From: Ove at itandnet.co.uk (Ove JK. Evensen)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:32:51 +0000
Subject: Mailscanner restarts after Spamassasin finds spam
In-Reply-To: <CA+Q-w8U2HwHa59QqiofoSbRP0VtbayC0-kLacDN86f6kmVzhLw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <245806C7A526C84EBBF2730AE305E45505386A31@MailMan.itandnet.local>
	<CA+Q-w8U2HwHa59QqiofoSbRP0VtbayC0-kLacDN86f6kmVzhLw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <245806C7A526C84EBBF2730AE305E45505386B7D@MailMan.itandnet.local>

Thanks for this, now it works. And now time to read to find out why.


OVE JK. EVENSEN | CHIEF ENGINEER

From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Joolee
Sent: 17 December 2012 10:39
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: Re: Mailscanner restarts after Spamassasin finds spam

Are you running MailScanner with the -U switch?

On 17 December 2012 10:37, Ove JK. Evensen <Ove at itandnet.co.uk<mailto:Ove at itandnet.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi all

I have to CentOS mashines running in MS Azure cloud that are running this as a spam filter/relay:

CentOS release 6.2
Perl version 5.10.1
Postfix version 2.9.4
MailScanner version 4.84.5
ClamAV 0.97.6
PHP Version = 5.3.3
MySQL Version = 5.1.61
MailWatch Version = 1.2.0

The problem is that when  SpamAssasin finds a spam it kills mailscanner.
The Strange part it When I set debug = yes and debug spamassasin= yes  in MailScanner.conf it does NOT kill mailscanner.
So I have nothing to go on to try to fix this.

Normal log entery:
Dec 17 09:14:54 mta02-ian MailScanner: Process did not exit cleanly, returned 255 with signal 0 (sometimes it returned 2 and not 255)
Dec 17 09:14:54 mta02-ian MailScanner[2082]: Spam Checks: Found 1 spam messages
Dec 17 09:14:49 mta02-ian MailScanner[2082]: Virus and Content Scanning: Starting


Email i get about the message that killed Mailscanner:
 Subject: test 2
 MessageID: E2DA912D839.A64D9
Quarantine: /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine/20121217/E2DA912D839.A64D9
    Report: MailScanner: Message attempted to kill MailScanner

So any help in pointing me in the right direction to fix this would be greatly appreciated:

Thank you all for taking time reading my email and happy XMAS to you all !


OVE JK. EVENSEN | CHIEF ENGINEER



Unit 1, Stratford Office Village, Romford Road, Stratford, E15 4EA
TEL. +44 (0)20 8503 1169 | MOB. +44 (0)7908 994650 | WEB. www.itandnet.co.uk<http://www.itandnet.co.uk>



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From maxsec at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 15:47:07 2012
From: maxsec at gmail.com (Martin Hepworth)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:47:07 +0000
Subject: Mailscanner restarts after Spamassasin finds spam
In-Reply-To: <245806C7A526C84EBBF2730AE305E45505386B5D@MailMan.itandnet.local>
References: <245806C7A526C84EBBF2730AE305E45505386A31@MailMan.itandnet.local>
	<CA+Q-w8U2HwHa59QqiofoSbRP0VtbayC0-kLacDN86f6kmVzhLw@mail.gmail.com>
	<245806C7A526C84EBBF2730AE305E45505386B5D@MailMan.itandnet.local>
Message-ID: <CAGDKor+rM3FUJb0Gu=Zsqog-VsZOY9TpyMyoBYvk3LnRiu31Uw@mail.gmail.com>

also check the permissions on any spam folder you have (ie if you keep spam
can the MailScanner runs as write into that directory)

-- 
Martin Hepworth, CISSP
Oxford, UK



On 17 December 2012 11:24, Ove JK. Evensen <Ove at itandnet.co.uk> wrote:

>  Have not, will read about the ?U switch and try that.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> OVE JK. EVENSEN | CHIEF ENGINEER****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:
> mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] *On Behalf Of *Joolee
>
> *Sent:* 17 December 2012 10:39
> *To:* MailScanner discussion
> *Subject:* Re: Mailscanner restarts after Spamassasin finds spam****
>
> ** **
>
> Are you running MailScanner with the -U switch?****
>
> ** **
>
> On 17 December 2012 10:37, Ove JK. Evensen <Ove at itandnet.co.uk> wrote:****
>
> Hi all
>
> I have to CentOS mashines running in MS Azure cloud that are running this
> as a spam filter/relay:
>
> CentOS release 6.2
> Perl version 5.10.1
> Postfix version 2.9.4
> MailScanner version 4.84.5
> ClamAV 0.97.6
> PHP Version = 5.3.3
> MySQL Version = 5.1.61
> MailWatch Version = 1.2.0
>
> The problem is that when  SpamAssasin finds a spam it kills mailscanner.
> The Strange part it When I set debug = yes and debug spamassasin= yes  in
> MailScanner.conf it does NOT kill mailscanner.
> So I have nothing to go on to try to fix this.
>
> Normal log entery:
> Dec 17 09:14:54 mta02-ian MailScanner: Process did not exit cleanly,
> returned 255 with signal 0 (sometimes it returned 2 and not 255)
> Dec 17 09:14:54 mta02-ian MailScanner[2082]: Spam Checks: Found 1 spam
> messages
> Dec 17 09:14:49 mta02-ian MailScanner[2082]: Virus and Content Scanning:
> Starting
>
>
> Email i get about the message that killed Mailscanner:
>  Subject: test 2
>  MessageID: E2DA912D839.A64D9
> Quarantine: /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine/20121217/E2DA912D839.A64D9
>     Report: MailScanner: Message attempted to kill MailScanner
>
> So any help in pointing me in the right direction to fix this would be
> greatly appreciated:
>
> Thank you all for taking time reading my email and happy XMAS to you all !
>
>
> OVE JK. EVENSEN | CHIEF ENGINEER
>
>
>
> Unit 1, Stratford Office Village, Romford Road, Stratford, E15 4EA
> TEL. +44 (0)20 8503 1169 | MOB. +44 (0)7908 994650 | WEB.
> www.itandnet.co.uk
>
>
>
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> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>
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>
> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!****
>
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From ssilva at sgvwater.com  Mon Dec 17 22:15:45 2012
From: ssilva at sgvwater.com (Scott Silva)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:15:45 -0800
Subject: Mailscanner restarts after Spamassasin finds spam
In-Reply-To: <245806C7A526C84EBBF2730AE305E45505386B7D@MailMan.itandnet.local>
References: <245806C7A526C84EBBF2730AE305E45505386A31@MailMan.itandnet.local>
	<CA+Q-w8U2HwHa59QqiofoSbRP0VtbayC0-kLacDN86f6kmVzhLw@mail.gmail.com>
	<245806C7A526C84EBBF2730AE305E45505386B7D@MailMan.itandnet.local>
Message-ID: <kao5if$3m9$1@ger.gmane.org>

on 12/17/2012 3:32 AM Ove JK. Evensen spake the following:
> Thanks for this, now it works. And now time to read to find out why.
> 
>  
Because MailScanner was written for the perl version in CentOS 5, and the
newer perl versions are less tolerant of taint errors...



From mailborder at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 19:24:51 2012
From: mailborder at gmail.com (Mailborder at Gmail)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:24:51 +0100
Subject: Mailborder Beta
Message-ID: <CANK23U0vUy3JASMnb2EuxwrJ5RFpE-NxDSm+4Nd2J55E-yrS1A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,

I spoke to Jules about emailing the list on this topic. This is the second
and last email regarding the Mailborder beta that you will see.

The Mailborder open beta will be closing December 31, 2012. This open beta
is open only to members of this list. If you don't have time to try out
Mailborder before the holidays, you can do a quick registration and claim
your keys to use later. Use the coupon code Beta323 (case sensitive) in the
store's shopping cart to reduce the cost to zero. You can also try out the
standard fully-functional trial at a later date.

If you haven't heard of Mailborder yet, Mailborder is a clusterable email
gateway solution that utilizes MailScanner as its processing engine. It is
configurable via a web interface with numerous reporting features.


Best Regards,

Jerry Benton
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From chris at chrisbailey.au.com  Fri Dec 21 01:20:22 2012
From: chris at chrisbailey.au.com (Christopher M. Bailey)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:20:22 +1100
Subject: Mailborder Beta [Scanned]
Message-ID: <56fb5ikfa1q9jersoh23qiot.1356052822140@email.android.com>

Hi Jerry,

Just went to order my beta codes, however, since I'm looking to test next year, I have not yet built the machine, hence I cannot enter the MAC address, is there any way around this.

Cheers,
Chris Bailey

Mailborder at Gmail <mailborder at gmail.com> wrote:

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From mailborder at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 02:23:11 2012
From: mailborder at gmail.com (Mailborder at Gmail)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 03:23:11 +0100
Subject: Mailborder Beta [Scanned]
In-Reply-To: <56fb5ikfa1q9jersoh23qiot.1356052822140@email.android.com>
References: <56fb5ikfa1q9jersoh23qiot.1356052822140@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CANK23U1-NCpn4yADxiShdX_830m86pBC3w8ewV5LJxBipwc3KA@mail.gmail.com>

Chris,

Use the contact form to send a request when you register. I will create the
keys for you.

Jerry Benton


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Christopher M. Bailey <
chris at chrisbailey.au.com> wrote:

> Hi Jerry,
>
> Just went to order my beta codes, however, since I'm looking to test next
> year, I have not yet built the machine, hence I cannot enter the MAC
> address, is there any way around this.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris Bailey
>
> Mailborder at Gmail <mailborder at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I spoke to Jules about emailing the list on this topic. This is the second
> and last email regarding the Mailborder beta that you will see.
>
> The Mailborder open beta will be closing December 31, 2012. This open beta
> is open only to members of this list. If you don't have time to try out
> Mailborder before the holidays, you can do a quick registration and claim
> your keys to use later. Use the coupon code Beta323 (case sensitive) in the
> store's shopping cart to reduce the cost to zero. You can also try out the
> standard fully-functional trial at a later date.
>
> If you haven't heard of Mailborder yet, Mailborder is a clusterable email
> gateway solution that utilizes MailScanner as its processing engine. It is
> configurable via a web interface with numerous reporting features.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jerry Benton
>
>
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is
> believed to be clean.
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is
> believed to be clean.
> --
> MailScanner mailing list
> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>
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>
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>
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From chris at chrisbailey.au.com  Fri Dec 21 02:50:01 2012
From: chris at chrisbailey.au.com (Christopher M. Bailey)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:50:01 +1100
Subject: Mailborder Beta [Scanned]
Message-ID: <ccw5mmrk623x4mc42f1aqn3p.1356058201046@email.android.com>

Sweet thanks


Sent from my GT-I9305T on the Telstra 4G networkMailborder at Gmail <mailborder at gmail.com> wrote:Chris,

Use the contact form to send a request when you register. I will create the keys for you.

Jerry Benton


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Christopher M. Bailey <chris at chrisbailey.au.com> wrote:
Hi Jerry,

Just went to order my beta codes, however, since I'm looking to test next year, I have not yet built the machine, hence I cannot enter the MAC address, is there any way around this.

Cheers,
Chris Bailey

Mailborder at Gmail <mailborder at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All,

I spoke to Jules about emailing the list on this topic. This is the second and last email regarding the Mailborder beta that you will see.

The Mailborder open beta will be closing December 31, 2012. This open beta is open only to members of this list. If you don't have time to try out Mailborder before the holidays, you can do a quick registration and claim your keys to use later. Use the coupon code Beta323 (case sensitive) in the store's shopping cart to reduce the cost to zero. You can also try out the standard fully-functional trial at a later date.?

If you haven't heard of Mailborder yet, Mailborder is a clusterable email gateway solution that utilizes MailScanner as its processing engine. It is configurable via a web interface with numerous reporting features.?


Best Regards,

Jerry Benton


-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and 
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believed to be clean. 
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dangerous content by MailScanner, and is 
believed to be clean. 
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From mailborder at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 10:28:32 2012
From: mailborder at gmail.com (Mailborder at Gmail)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:28:32 +0100
Subject: Mailborder Beta [Scanned]
In-Reply-To: <ccw5mmrk623x4mc42f1aqn3p.1356058201046@email.android.com>
References: <ccw5mmrk623x4mc42f1aqn3p.1356058201046@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CANK23U2+n_Z1cYCAvjmZqPqwZsX=Zz-_PN6sOk2hRpCud3TEPQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have had a couple more people request the same thing. I will extend the
deadline to 15 January 2013. If you still need more time, let me know then.
You can get everything from here: http://www.mailborder.com . You can also
check out the demo server.


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 3:50 AM, Christopher M. Bailey <
chris at chrisbailey.au.com> wrote:

> Sweet thanks
>
>
> Sent from my GT-I9305T on the Telstra 4G network
>
> Mailborder at Gmail <mailborder at gmail.com> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Use the contact form to send a request when you register. I will create
> the keys for you.
>
> Jerry Benton
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Christopher M. Bailey <
> chris at chrisbailey.au.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jerry,
>>
>> Just went to order my beta codes, however, since I'm looking to test next
>> year, I have not yet built the machine, hence I cannot enter the MAC
>> address, is there any way around this.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris Bailey
>>
>> Mailborder at Gmail <mailborder at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I spoke to Jules about emailing the list on this topic. This is the
>> second and last email regarding the Mailborder beta that you will see.
>>
>> The Mailborder open beta will be closing December 31, 2012. This open
>> beta is open only to members of this list. If you don't have time to try
>> out Mailborder before the holidays, you can do a quick registration and
>> claim your keys to use later. Use the coupon code Beta323 (case sensitive)
>> in the store's shopping cart to reduce the cost to zero. You can also try
>> out the standard fully-functional trial at a later date.
>>
>> If you haven't heard of Mailborder yet, Mailborder is a clusterable email
>> gateway solution that utilizes MailScanner as its processing engine. It is
>> configurable via a web interface with numerous reporting features.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Jerry Benton
>>
>>
>> --
>> This message has been scanned for viruses and
>> dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and
>> is
>> believed to be clean.
>> --
>> This message has been scanned for viruses and
>> dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and
>> is
>> believed to be clean.
>> --
>> MailScanner mailing list
>> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>
>> Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>>
>> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>>
>>
>
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is
> believed to be clean.
> --
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> believed to be clean.
>
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>
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From campbell at cnpapers.com  Fri Dec 21 15:18:01 2012
From: campbell at cnpapers.com (Steve Campbell)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:18:01 -0500
Subject: OT: Opinions wanted please
Message-ID: <50D47DA9.7030500@cnpapers.com>

I've been asked to do  a dual task for one of our users. The user is 
retiring and wants all of his email forwarded to another user. He also 
wants a message returned to the sender indicating that he is retiring 
and that from here on, all email should be addressed to the user his 
email is being forwarded to.

I use sendmail, so the forwarding would normally be done in the alias 
file. I don't like to do out-of-office requests, but this seems like a 
way to handle the message he wants returned to the sender. I'm not sure 
both would work at the same time anyway.

I use  the user's .procmailrc to handle the OOO stuff.

Can anyone suggest a better way to do this or an opinion on how I'm 
thinking of doing this please?

I'd rather the retiring user to have handled the sender's notices before 
leaving but that's not going to happen.

Thanks for any input.

steve campbell


From jaearick at colby.edu  Fri Dec 21 15:52:13 2012
From: jaearick at colby.edu (Jeff Earickson)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:52:13 -0500
Subject: OT: Opinions wanted please
In-Reply-To: <50D47DA9.7030500@cnpapers.com>
References: <50D47DA9.7030500@cnpapers.com>
Message-ID: <CADU1O-1wGmePFZYue3OGudJ_uchM0211qPQy9X750jV7w3e5bQ@mail.gmail.com>

Steve,

Since you use sendmail, have I got just the perl scripts for you.  See attached.

If you want to see how this script performs in the real world, send
email to "tjchrist at colby.edu",
a person who has left and has a redirect set via redirectstaff.pl.

For redirect+forwarding, see the redirectstu.pl script.  However, you
**really** don't want to do this.
Set a redirect and that is it.  Forwarding will bite you (or him) at some point.

-----------------------------------
Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
Senior Server System Administrator
Colby College,
4214 Mayflower Hill,
Waterville ME, 04901-8842
207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
Eastern Time Zone, USA
-----------------------------------


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com> wrote:
> I've been asked to do  a dual task for one of our users. The user is
> retiring and wants all of his email forwarded to another user. He also
> wants a message returned to the sender indicating that he is retiring
> and that from here on, all email should be addressed to the user his
> email is being forwarded to.
>
> I use sendmail, so the forwarding would normally be done in the alias
> file. I don't like to do out-of-office requests, but this seems like a
> way to handle the message he wants returned to the sender. I'm not sure
> both would work at the same time anyway.
>
> I use  the user's .procmailrc to handle the OOO stuff.
>
> Can anyone suggest a better way to do this or an opinion on how I'm
> thinking of doing this please?
>
> I'd rather the retiring user to have handled the sender's notices before
> leaving but that's not going to happen.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> steve campbell
>
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From campbell at cnpapers.com  Fri Dec 21 17:06:11 2012
From: campbell at cnpapers.com (Steve Campbell)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:06:11 -0500
Subject: OT: Opinions wanted please
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Jeff,

Thanks so much.

As I understand your comments and the perl, I can use redirectstu to 
send the email to the new user (as I described in my original post by 
using the aliases file) by specifying the "forward" address as a 
replacement for "new_address" and -f flag option. I'll try and convince 
them to use the "staff" version.

I never like doing the OOO/vacation thing because it just advertises 
email addresses to spammers. I'm not sure what YOUR reasons are for 
getting bit, but the above is my reason.

In the end, I think people who don't make the effort to notify people on 
their own are just lazy.

I think I can get the 3 perl modules with yum, although the Getopt 
version on Centos repos are the "-strict" version.

Again, thanks for the response and files.

steve

On 12/21/2012 10:52 AM, Jeff Earickson wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Since you use sendmail, have I got just the perl scripts for you.  See attached.
>
> If you want to see how this script performs in the real world, send
> email to "tjchrist at colby.edu",
> a person who has left and has a redirect set via redirectstaff.pl.
>
> For redirect+forwarding, see the redirectstu.pl script.  However, you
> **really** don't want to do this.
> Set a redirect and that is it.  Forwarding will bite you (or him) at some point.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
> Senior Server System Administrator
> Colby College,
> 4214 Mayflower Hill,
> Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
> Eastern Time Zone, USA
> -----------------------------------
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com> wrote:
>> I've been asked to do  a dual task for one of our users. The user is
>> retiring and wants all of his email forwarded to another user. He also
>> wants a message returned to the sender indicating that he is retiring
>> and that from here on, all email should be addressed to the user his
>> email is being forwarded to.
>>
>> I use sendmail, so the forwarding would normally be done in the alias
>> file. I don't like to do out-of-office requests, but this seems like a
>> way to handle the message he wants returned to the sender. I'm not sure
>> both would work at the same time anyway.
>>
>> I use  the user's .procmailrc to handle the OOO stuff.
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a better way to do this or an opinion on how I'm
>> thinking of doing this please?
>>
>> I'd rather the retiring user to have handled the sender's notices before
>> leaving but that's not going to happen.
>>
>> Thanks for any input.
>>
>> steve campbell
>>
>> --
>> MailScanner mailing list
>> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>
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>>
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From ssilva at sgvwater.com  Fri Dec 21 17:57:19 2012
From: ssilva at sgvwater.com (Scott Silva)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:57:19 -0800
Subject: OT: Opinions wanted please
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on 12/21/2012 7:18 AM Steve Campbell spake the following:
> I've been asked to do  a dual task for one of our users. The user is 
> retiring and wants all of his email forwarded to another user. He also 
> wants a message returned to the sender indicating that he is retiring 
> and that from here on, all email should be addressed to the user his 
> email is being forwarded to.
> 
> I use sendmail, so the forwarding would normally be done in the alias 
> file. I don't like to do out-of-office requests, but this seems like a 
> way to handle the message he wants returned to the sender. I'm not sure 
> both would work at the same time anyway.
> 
> I use  the user's .procmailrc to handle the OOO stuff.
> 
> Can anyone suggest a better way to do this or an opinion on how I'm 
> thinking of doing this please?
> 
> I'd rather the retiring user to have handled the sender's notices before 
> leaving but that's not going to happen.
> 
> Thanks for any input.
> 
> steve campbell
> 
Either forward in the alias file and let the new user deal with it, or turn
off the account and let the sender deal with it... If it is business related
mail, I think the former is the best choice...




From campbell at cnpapers.com  Fri Dec 21 21:03:16 2012
From: campbell at cnpapers.com (Steve Campbell)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:03:16 -0500
Subject: OT: Opinions wanted please
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Well, I'm not sure what's going on but I keep getting the message in 
maillog "Service unavailable".

I soft linked in /etc/smrsh the name of the perl script to the modified 
script you provided me, added the line in aliases, ran newaliases and 
restarted MailScanner.

My sendmail.cf already had the MProg line configured properly.

I'm running Centos 6, by the way. Any clues? the smrsh is a little 
generic to provide a lot, since it references the smrsh.c file, which I 
don't have on my system.

Thanks

steve
On 12/21/2012 10:52 AM, Jeff Earickson wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Since you use sendmail, have I got just the perl scripts for you.  See attached.
>
> If you want to see how this script performs in the real world, send
> email to "tjchrist at colby.edu",
> a person who has left and has a redirect set via redirectstaff.pl.
>
> For redirect+forwarding, see the redirectstu.pl script.  However, you
> **really** don't want to do this.
> Set a redirect and that is it.  Forwarding will bite you (or him) at some point.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
> Senior Server System Administrator
> Colby College,
> 4214 Mayflower Hill,
> Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
> Eastern Time Zone, USA
> -----------------------------------
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com> wrote:
>> I've been asked to do  a dual task for one of our users. The user is
>> retiring and wants all of his email forwarded to another user. He also
>> wants a message returned to the sender indicating that he is retiring
>> and that from here on, all email should be addressed to the user his
>> email is being forwarded to.
>>
>> I use sendmail, so the forwarding would normally be done in the alias
>> file. I don't like to do out-of-office requests, but this seems like a
>> way to handle the message he wants returned to the sender. I'm not sure
>> both would work at the same time anyway.
>>
>> I use  the user's .procmailrc to handle the OOO stuff.
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a better way to do this or an opinion on how I'm
>> thinking of doing this please?
>>
>> I'd rather the retiring user to have handled the sender's notices before
>> leaving but that's not going to happen.
>>
>> Thanks for any input.
>>
>> steve campbell
>>
>> --
>> MailScanner mailing list
>> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>
>> Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>>
>> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>>
>>

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From jaearick at colby.edu  Fri Dec 21 21:17:12 2012
From: jaearick at colby.edu (Jeff Earickson)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:17:12 -0500
Subject: OT: Opinions wanted please
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Steve,

I am running all of this on Redhat 6.3, same as Centos.  I build and
install sendmail from source code, so I have the /usr/sbin/smrsh on my
system.  My /usr/adm/sm.bin directory looks like so:

(106)> ls -l
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 26 Apr 12  2011 redirectstaff.pl ->
/etc/mail/redirectstaff.pl*
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 24 Apr 12  2011 redirectstu.pl ->
/etc/mail/redirectstu.pl*
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 17 Apr 12  2011 vacation -> /usr/bin/vacation*

Where the perl scripts I attached reside in /etc/mail, chown
root:mail, chmod 755.  The Mprog line in my sendmail.cf looks like:

Mprog,		P=/usr/sbin/smrsh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL,
R=EnvToL/HdrToL, D=$z:/,

I would suggest using the debug feature in the script(s), and then
looking at the files it dumps in /tmp.

This is all a sendmail config issue, nothing really to do with MailScanner.
-----------------------------------
Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
Senior Server System Administrator
Colby College,
4214 Mayflower Hill,
Waterville ME, 04901-8842
207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
Eastern Time Zone, USA
-----------------------------------


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com> wrote:
> Well, I'm not sure what's going on but I keep getting the message in maillog
> "Service unavailable".
>
> I soft linked in /etc/smrsh the name of the perl script to the modified
> script you provided me, added the line in aliases, ran newaliases and
> restarted MailScanner.
>
> My sendmail.cf already had the MProg line configured properly.
>
> I'm running Centos 6, by the way. Any clues? the smrsh is a little generic
> to provide a lot, since it references the smrsh.c file, which I don't have
> on my system.
>
> Thanks
>
> steve
> On 12/21/2012 10:52 AM, Jeff Earickson wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> Since you use sendmail, have I got just the perl scripts for you.  See
> attached.
>
> If you want to see how this script performs in the real world, send
> email to "tjchrist at colby.edu",
> a person who has left and has a redirect set via redirectstaff.pl.
>
> For redirect+forwarding, see the redirectstu.pl script.  However, you
> **really** don't want to do this.
> Set a redirect and that is it.  Forwarding will bite you (or him) at some
> point.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
> Senior Server System Administrator
> Colby College,
> 4214 Mayflower Hill,
> Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
> Eastern Time Zone, USA
> -----------------------------------
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
> wrote:
>
> I've been asked to do  a dual task for one of our users. The user is
> retiring and wants all of his email forwarded to another user. He also
> wants a message returned to the sender indicating that he is retiring
> and that from here on, all email should be addressed to the user his
> email is being forwarded to.
>
> I use sendmail, so the forwarding would normally be done in the alias
> file. I don't like to do out-of-office requests, but this seems like a
> way to handle the message he wants returned to the sender. I'm not sure
> both would work at the same time anyway.
>
> I use  the user's .procmailrc to handle the OOO stuff.
>
> Can anyone suggest a better way to do this or an opinion on how I'm
> thinking of doing this please?
>
> I'd rather the retiring user to have handled the sender's notices before
> leaving but that's not going to happen.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> steve campbell
>
> --
> MailScanner mailing list
> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>
> Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>
> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
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From campbell at cnpapers.com  Sat Dec 22 03:42:53 2012
From: campbell at cnpapers.com (Steve Campbell)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:42:53 -0500
Subject: OT: Opinions wanted please
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Jeff,

My Mprog line is identical to yours. It's the default of the Centos install.

I don't have a directory under /usr named "adm" or a directory anywhere on my
system named sm.bin. Do you think I should create it? yum shows no package that
provides it as well.

What does the "*" at the end of the /etc/mail/redirectstu.pl* represent?

I realize MailScanner doesn't come into play here, but that's how I start and
restart sendmail. I've got mailman running on another older system that uses the
same scheme, so I tried to compare what was there. The files on that system are
in /etc/smrsh. I'll do a little googling to see what I can find on Centos 6.3 smrsh.

Thanks for the help. I'll be working on this from home since I need this done by
Monday.

Quoting Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby.edu>:

> Steve,
> 
> I am running all of this on Redhat 6.3, same as Centos.  I build and
> install sendmail from source code, so I have the /usr/sbin/smrsh on my
> system.  My /usr/adm/sm.bin directory looks like so:
> 
> (106)> ls -l
> total 0
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 26 Apr 12  2011 redirectstaff.pl ->
> /etc/mail/redirectstaff.pl*
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 24 Apr 12  2011 redirectstu.pl ->
> /etc/mail/redirectstu.pl*
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 17 Apr 12  2011 vacation -> /usr/bin/vacation*
> 
> Where the perl scripts I attached reside in /etc/mail, chown
> root:mail, chmod 755.  The Mprog line in my sendmail.cf looks like:
> 
> Mprog,		P=/usr/sbin/smrsh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL,
> R=EnvToL/HdrToL, D=$z:/,
> 
> I would suggest using the debug feature in the script(s), and then
> looking at the files it dumps in /tmp.
> 
> This is all a sendmail config issue, nothing really to do with MailScanner.
> -----------------------------------
> Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
> Senior Server System Administrator
> Colby College,
> 4214 Mayflower Hill,
> Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
> Eastern Time Zone, USA
> -----------------------------------
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
> wrote:
> > Well, I'm not sure what's going on but I keep getting the message in
> maillog
> > "Service unavailable".
> >
> > I soft linked in /etc/smrsh the name of the perl script to the modified
> > script you provided me, added the line in aliases, ran newaliases and
> > restarted MailScanner.
> >
> > My sendmail.cf already had the MProg line configured properly.
> >
> > I'm running Centos 6, by the way. Any clues? the smrsh is a little generic
> > to provide a lot, since it references the smrsh.c file, which I don't have
> > on my system.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > steve
> > On 12/21/2012 10:52 AM, Jeff Earickson wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > Since you use sendmail, have I got just the perl scripts for you.  See
> > attached.
> >
> > If you want to see how this script performs in the real world, send
> > email to "tjchrist at colby.edu",
> > a person who has left and has a redirect set via redirectstaff.pl.
> >
> > For redirect+forwarding, see the redirectstu.pl script.  However, you
> > **really** don't want to do this.
> > Set a redirect and that is it.  Forwarding will bite you (or him) at some
> > point.
> >
> > -----------------------------------
> > Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
> > Senior Server System Administrator
> > Colby College,
> > 4214 Mayflower Hill,
> > Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> > 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
> > Eastern Time Zone, USA
> > -----------------------------------
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I've been asked to do  a dual task for one of our users. The user is
> > retiring and wants all of his email forwarded to another user. He also
> > wants a message returned to the sender indicating that he is retiring
> > and that from here on, all email should be addressed to the user his
> > email is being forwarded to.
> >
> > I use sendmail, so the forwarding would normally be done in the alias
> > file. I don't like to do out-of-office requests, but this seems like a
> > way to handle the message he wants returned to the sender. I'm not sure
> > both would work at the same time anyway.
> >
> > I use  the user's .procmailrc to handle the OOO stuff.
> >
> > Can anyone suggest a better way to do this or an opinion on how I'm
> > thinking of doing this please?
> >
> > I'd rather the retiring user to have handled the sender's notices before
> > leaving but that's not going to happen.
> >
> > Thanks for any input.
> >
> > steve campbell
> >
> > --
> > MailScanner mailing list
> > mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> > http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
> >
> > Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
> >
> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> > http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
> >
> > Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
> >
> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
> >
> -- 
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> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
> 
> Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
> 
> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website! 
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From campbell at cnpapers.com  Sat Dec 22 04:54:29 2012
From: campbell at cnpapers.com (Steve Campbell)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 23:54:29 -0500
Subject: OT: Opinions wanted please
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Jeff,

I moved the script to /etc/mail as yours is listed. The results are:

Using -d, I now get the debug file in /tmp.

Using -f, I get at invalid option message in maillog.

Using no option seems to succeed, I get a "Sent" message in maillog, but no
message is delivered.

I'm using the "staff" version of the two scripts.

Thanks for all the help.

steve


Quoting Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby.edu>:

> Steve,
> 
> I am running all of this on Redhat 6.3, same as Centos.  I build and
> install sendmail from source code, so I have the /usr/sbin/smrsh on my
> system.  My /usr/adm/sm.bin directory looks like so:
> 
> (106)> ls -l
> total 0
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 26 Apr 12  2011 redirectstaff.pl ->
> /etc/mail/redirectstaff.pl*
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 24 Apr 12  2011 redirectstu.pl ->
> /etc/mail/redirectstu.pl*
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 17 Apr 12  2011 vacation -> /usr/bin/vacation*
> 
> Where the perl scripts I attached reside in /etc/mail, chown
> root:mail, chmod 755.  The Mprog line in my sendmail.cf looks like:
> 
> Mprog,		P=/usr/sbin/smrsh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL,
> R=EnvToL/HdrToL, D=$z:/,
> 
> I would suggest using the debug feature in the script(s), and then
> looking at the files it dumps in /tmp.
> 
> This is all a sendmail config issue, nothing really to do with MailScanner.
> -----------------------------------
> Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
> Senior Server System Administrator
> Colby College,
> 4214 Mayflower Hill,
> Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
> Eastern Time Zone, USA
> -----------------------------------
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
> wrote:
> > Well, I'm not sure what's going on but I keep getting the message in
> maillog
> > "Service unavailable".
> >
> > I soft linked in /etc/smrsh the name of the perl script to the modified
> > script you provided me, added the line in aliases, ran newaliases and
> > restarted MailScanner.
> >
> > My sendmail.cf already had the MProg line configured properly.
> >
> > I'm running Centos 6, by the way. Any clues? the smrsh is a little generic
> > to provide a lot, since it references the smrsh.c file, which I don't have
> > on my system.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > steve
> > On 12/21/2012 10:52 AM, Jeff Earickson wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > Since you use sendmail, have I got just the perl scripts for you.  See
> > attached.
> >
> > If you want to see how this script performs in the real world, send
> > email to "tjchrist at colby.edu",
> > a person who has left and has a redirect set via redirectstaff.pl.
> >
> > For redirect+forwarding, see the redirectstu.pl script.  However, you
> > **really** don't want to do this.
> > Set a redirect and that is it.  Forwarding will bite you (or him) at some
> > point.
> >
> > -----------------------------------
> > Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
> > Senior Server System Administrator
> > Colby College,
> > 4214 Mayflower Hill,
> > Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> > 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
> > Eastern Time Zone, USA
> > -----------------------------------
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I've been asked to do  a dual task for one of our users. The user is
> > retiring and wants all of his email forwarded to another user. He also
> > wants a message returned to the sender indicating that he is retiring
> > and that from here on, all email should be addressed to the user his
> > email is being forwarded to.
> >
> > I use sendmail, so the forwarding would normally be done in the alias
> > file. I don't like to do out-of-office requests, but this seems like a
> > way to handle the message he wants returned to the sender. I'm not sure
> > both would work at the same time anyway.
> >
> > I use  the user's .procmailrc to handle the OOO stuff.
> >
> > Can anyone suggest a better way to do this or an opinion on how I'm
> > thinking of doing this please?
> >
> > I'd rather the retiring user to have handled the sender's notices before
> > leaving but that's not going to happen.
> >
> > Thanks for any input.
> >
> > steve campbell
> >
> > --
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> > mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> > http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
> >
> > Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
> >
> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
> >
> > Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
> >
> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
> >
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From campbell at cnpapers.com  Sat Dec 22 05:03:12 2012
From: campbell at cnpapers.com (Steve Campbell)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:03:12 -0500
Subject: OT: Opinions wanted please
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Jeff,

Never mind, it's all working now. MailScanner was quarantining the "noreply"
address at my domain.

Thanks so much and Merry Christmas.

steve

Quoting Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby.edu>:

> Steve,
> 
> I am running all of this on Redhat 6.3, same as Centos.  I build and
> install sendmail from source code, so I have the /usr/sbin/smrsh on my
> system.  My /usr/adm/sm.bin directory looks like so:
> 
> (106)> ls -l
> total 0
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 26 Apr 12  2011 redirectstaff.pl ->
> /etc/mail/redirectstaff.pl*
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 24 Apr 12  2011 redirectstu.pl ->
> /etc/mail/redirectstu.pl*
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 17 Apr 12  2011 vacation -> /usr/bin/vacation*
> 
> Where the perl scripts I attached reside in /etc/mail, chown
> root:mail, chmod 755.  The Mprog line in my sendmail.cf looks like:
> 
> Mprog,		P=/usr/sbin/smrsh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL,
> R=EnvToL/HdrToL, D=$z:/,
> 
> I would suggest using the debug feature in the script(s), and then
> looking at the files it dumps in /tmp.
> 
> This is all a sendmail config issue, nothing really to do with MailScanner.
> -----------------------------------
> Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
> Senior Server System Administrator
> Colby College,
> 4214 Mayflower Hill,
> Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
> Eastern Time Zone, USA
> -----------------------------------
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
> wrote:
> > Well, I'm not sure what's going on but I keep getting the message in
> maillog
> > "Service unavailable".
> >
> > I soft linked in /etc/smrsh the name of the perl script to the modified
> > script you provided me, added the line in aliases, ran newaliases and
> > restarted MailScanner.
> >
> > My sendmail.cf already had the MProg line configured properly.
> >
> > I'm running Centos 6, by the way. Any clues? the smrsh is a little generic
> > to provide a lot, since it references the smrsh.c file, which I don't have
> > on my system.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > steve
> > On 12/21/2012 10:52 AM, Jeff Earickson wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > Since you use sendmail, have I got just the perl scripts for you.  See
> > attached.
> >
> > If you want to see how this script performs in the real world, send
> > email to "tjchrist at colby.edu",
> > a person who has left and has a redirect set via redirectstaff.pl.
> >
> > For redirect+forwarding, see the redirectstu.pl script.  However, you
> > **really** don't want to do this.
> > Set a redirect and that is it.  Forwarding will bite you (or him) at some
> > point.
> >
> > -----------------------------------
> > Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
> > Senior Server System Administrator
> > Colby College,
> > 4214 Mayflower Hill,
> > Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> > 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
> > Eastern Time Zone, USA
> > -----------------------------------
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I've been asked to do  a dual task for one of our users. The user is
> > retiring and wants all of his email forwarded to another user. He also
> > wants a message returned to the sender indicating that he is retiring
> > and that from here on, all email should be addressed to the user his
> > email is being forwarded to.
> >
> > I use sendmail, so the forwarding would normally be done in the alias
> > file. I don't like to do out-of-office requests, but this seems like a
> > way to handle the message he wants returned to the sender. I'm not sure
> > both would work at the same time anyway.
> >
> > I use  the user's .procmailrc to handle the OOO stuff.
> >
> > Can anyone suggest a better way to do this or an opinion on how I'm
> > thinking of doing this please?
> >
> > I'd rather the retiring user to have handled the sender's notices before
> > leaving but that's not going to happen.
> >
> > Thanks for any input.
> >
> > steve campbell
> >
> > --
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> > mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> > http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
> >
> > Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
> >
> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> > http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
> >
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> >
> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
> >
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> 
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> 
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From jaearick at colby.edu  Sat Dec 22 13:52:10 2012
From: jaearick at colby.edu (Jeff Earickson)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:52:10 -0500
Subject: OT: Opinions wanted please
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Steve,

I see from a later email that you got it working, but to answer your
question, I have
an alias for "ls":

ls      /usr/bin/ls -CFl

So one of those options puts an asterisk at the end of files that are
executable.
Sorry about that, that could puzzle you.  Glad you got it working.

Even though we moved Colby's email to Google 3 or 4 years ago, we have
never been
able to get rid of our legacy email server (now virtual); one of the
big reasons is that
we don't want to loose our redirect feature from these perl scripts.
They are very handy.

-----------------------------------
Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
Senior Server System Administrator
Colby College,
4214 Mayflower Hill,
Waterville ME, 04901-8842
207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
Eastern Time Zone, USA
-----------------------------------


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> My Mprog line is identical to yours. It's the default of the Centos install.
>
> I don't have a directory under /usr named "adm" or a directory anywhere on my
> system named sm.bin. Do you think I should create it? yum shows no package that
> provides it as well.
>
> What does the "*" at the end of the /etc/mail/redirectstu.pl* represent?
>
> I realize MailScanner doesn't come into play here, but that's how I start and
> restart sendmail. I've got mailman running on another older system that uses the
> same scheme, so I tried to compare what was there. The files on that system are
> in /etc/smrsh. I'll do a little googling to see what I can find on Centos 6.3 smrsh.
>
> Thanks for the help. I'll be working on this from home since I need this done by
> Monday.
>
> Quoting Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby.edu>:
>
>> Steve,
>>
>> I am running all of this on Redhat 6.3, same as Centos.  I build and
>> install sendmail from source code, so I have the /usr/sbin/smrsh on my
>> system.  My /usr/adm/sm.bin directory looks like so:
>>
>> (106)> ls -l
>> total 0
>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 26 Apr 12  2011 redirectstaff.pl ->
>> /etc/mail/redirectstaff.pl*
>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 24 Apr 12  2011 redirectstu.pl ->
>> /etc/mail/redirectstu.pl*
>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 17 Apr 12  2011 vacation -> /usr/bin/vacation*
>>
>> Where the perl scripts I attached reside in /etc/mail, chown
>> root:mail, chmod 755.  The Mprog line in my sendmail.cf looks like:
>>
>> Mprog,                P=/usr/sbin/smrsh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL,
>> R=EnvToL/HdrToL, D=$z:/,
>>
>> I would suggest using the debug feature in the script(s), and then
>> looking at the files it dumps in /tmp.
>>
>> This is all a sendmail config issue, nothing really to do with MailScanner.
>> -----------------------------------
>> Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
>> Senior Server System Administrator
>> Colby College,
>> 4214 Mayflower Hill,
>> Waterville ME, 04901-8842
>> 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
>> Eastern Time Zone, USA
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Well, I'm not sure what's going on but I keep getting the message in
>> maillog
>> > "Service unavailable".
>> >
>> > I soft linked in /etc/smrsh the name of the perl script to the modified
>> > script you provided me, added the line in aliases, ran newaliases and
>> > restarted MailScanner.
>> >
>> > My sendmail.cf already had the MProg line configured properly.
>> >
>> > I'm running Centos 6, by the way. Any clues? the smrsh is a little generic
>> > to provide a lot, since it references the smrsh.c file, which I don't have
>> > on my system.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > steve
>> > On 12/21/2012 10:52 AM, Jeff Earickson wrote:
>> >
>> > Steve,
>> >
>> > Since you use sendmail, have I got just the perl scripts for you.  See
>> > attached.
>> >
>> > If you want to see how this script performs in the real world, send
>> > email to "tjchrist at colby.edu",
>> > a person who has left and has a redirect set via redirectstaff.pl.
>> >
>> > For redirect+forwarding, see the redirectstu.pl script.  However, you
>> > **really** don't want to do this.
>> > Set a redirect and that is it.  Forwarding will bite you (or him) at some
>> > point.
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------
>> > Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
>> > Senior Server System Administrator
>> > Colby College,
>> > 4214 Mayflower Hill,
>> > Waterville ME, 04901-8842
>> > 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
>> > Eastern Time Zone, USA
>> > -----------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I've been asked to do  a dual task for one of our users. The user is
>> > retiring and wants all of his email forwarded to another user. He also
>> > wants a message returned to the sender indicating that he is retiring
>> > and that from here on, all email should be addressed to the user his
>> > email is being forwarded to.
>> >
>> > I use sendmail, so the forwarding would normally be done in the alias
>> > file. I don't like to do out-of-office requests, but this seems like a
>> > way to handle the message he wants returned to the sender. I'm not sure
>> > both would work at the same time anyway.
>> >
>> > I use  the user's .procmailrc to handle the OOO stuff.
>> >
>> > Can anyone suggest a better way to do this or an opinion on how I'm
>> > thinking of doing this please?
>> >
>> > I'd rather the retiring user to have handled the sender's notices before
>> > leaving but that's not going to happen.
>> >
>> > Thanks for any input.
>> >
>> > steve campbell
>> >
>> > --
>> > MailScanner mailing list
>> > mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>> > http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>> >
>> > Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>> >
>> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> > mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>> > http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>> >
>> > Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>> >
>> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>> >
>> --
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>> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>
>> Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>>
>> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>>
>
>
>
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From mailborder at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 09:21:26 2012
From: mailborder at gmail.com (Mailborder at Gmail)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:21:26 +0100
Subject: Mailborder Beta [Scanned]
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I had a question today after the world ended on Friday. Glad the Internet
still works. I was asked if Mailborder was a commercial product. The short
answer is yes.

However, I want to make this as clear as I did with Jules when I requested
to email the MailScanner discussion list. I have no intent on making money
off the people that help develop MailScanner. Once the beta ends the
MailScanner installation will still function as normal minus the Mailborder
specific features. (Web interface, automated tasks, clustered
configuration, statistical reporting, etc.)

Those active in the beta program (giving feedback in the forums) will be
rewarded long term Mailborder licenses for one cluster.  Open registration
ends 15 January 2013. Beta licenses are valid for 60 days, so testing will
end sometime in March unless extended.

Happy Holidays,

Jerry Benton


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mailborder at Gmail
<mailborder at gmail.com>wrote:

> I have had a couple more people request the same thing. I will extend the
> deadline to 15 January 2013. If you still need more time, let me know then.
> You can get everything from here: http://www.mailborder.com . You can
> also check out the demo server.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 3:50 AM, Christopher M. Bailey <
> chris at chrisbailey.au.com> wrote:
>
>> Sweet thanks
>>
>>
>> Sent from my GT-I9305T on the Telstra 4G network
>>
>> Mailborder at Gmail <mailborder at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> Use the contact form to send a request when you register. I will create
>> the keys for you.
>>
>> Jerry Benton
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Christopher M. Bailey <
>> chris at chrisbailey.au.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jerry,
>>>
>>> Just went to order my beta codes, however, since I'm looking to test
>>> next year, I have not yet built the machine, hence I cannot enter the MAC
>>> address, is there any way around this.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris Bailey
>>>
>>> Mailborder at Gmail <mailborder at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I spoke to Jules about emailing the list on this topic. This is the
>>> second and last email regarding the Mailborder beta that you will see.
>>>
>>> The Mailborder open beta will be closing December 31, 2012. This open
>>> beta is open only to members of this list. If you don't have time to try
>>> out Mailborder before the holidays, you can do a quick registration and
>>> claim your keys to use later. Use the coupon code Beta323 (case sensitive)
>>> in the store's shopping cart to reduce the cost to zero. You can also try
>>> out the standard fully-functional trial at a later date.
>>>
>>> If you haven't heard of Mailborder yet, Mailborder is a clusterable
>>> email gateway solution that utilizes MailScanner as its processing engine.
>>> It is configurable via a web interface with numerous reporting features.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Jerry Benton
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and
>>> dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and
>>> is
>>> believed to be clean.
>>> --
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>>> dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and
>>> is
>>> believed to be clean.
>>> --
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>>> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>>> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>>
>>> Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>>>
>>> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
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>> dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and
>> is
>> believed to be clean.
>> --
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>> is
>> believed to be clean.
>>
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>>
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From alex at vidadigital.com.pa  Wed Dec 26 12:20:03 2012
From: alex at vidadigital.com.pa (Alex Neuman)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 07:20:03 -0500
Subject: OT: Opinions wanted please
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I would use an autoreply message like the one created by Webmin, since
you can tell it *not* to reply a second time if the e-mail comes in
before a certain timeframe. This prevents loops a bit further and
lessens the impact a busy account might have, since it only sends an
autoreply if a sender hasn't written in more than X minutes since last
time.

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby.edu> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I see from a later email that you got it working, but to answer your
> question, I have
> an alias for "ls":
>
> ls      /usr/bin/ls -CFl
>
> So one of those options puts an asterisk at the end of files that are
> executable.
> Sorry about that, that could puzzle you.  Glad you got it working.
>
> Even though we moved Colby's email to Google 3 or 4 years ago, we have
> never been
> able to get rid of our legacy email server (now virtual); one of the
> big reasons is that
> we don't want to loose our redirect feature from these perl scripts.
> They are very handy.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
> Senior Server System Administrator
> Colby College,
> 4214 Mayflower Hill,
> Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
> Eastern Time Zone, USA
> -----------------------------------
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com> wrote:
>> Jeff,
>>
>> My Mprog line is identical to yours. It's the default of the Centos install.
>>
>> I don't have a directory under /usr named "adm" or a directory anywhere on my
>> system named sm.bin. Do you think I should create it? yum shows no package that
>> provides it as well.
>>
>> What does the "*" at the end of the /etc/mail/redirectstu.pl* represent?
>>
>> I realize MailScanner doesn't come into play here, but that's how I start and
>> restart sendmail. I've got mailman running on another older system that uses the
>> same scheme, so I tried to compare what was there. The files on that system are
>> in /etc/smrsh. I'll do a little googling to see what I can find on Centos 6.3 smrsh.
>>
>> Thanks for the help. I'll be working on this from home since I need this done by
>> Monday.
>>
>> Quoting Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby.edu>:
>>
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> I am running all of this on Redhat 6.3, same as Centos.  I build and
>>> install sendmail from source code, so I have the /usr/sbin/smrsh on my
>>> system.  My /usr/adm/sm.bin directory looks like so:
>>>
>>> (106)> ls -l
>>> total 0
>>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 26 Apr 12  2011 redirectstaff.pl ->
>>> /etc/mail/redirectstaff.pl*
>>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 24 Apr 12  2011 redirectstu.pl ->
>>> /etc/mail/redirectstu.pl*
>>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 17 Apr 12  2011 vacation -> /usr/bin/vacation*
>>>
>>> Where the perl scripts I attached reside in /etc/mail, chown
>>> root:mail, chmod 755.  The Mprog line in my sendmail.cf looks like:
>>>
>>> Mprog,                P=/usr/sbin/smrsh, F=lsDFMoqeu9, S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL,
>>> R=EnvToL/HdrToL, D=$z:/,
>>>
>>> I would suggest using the debug feature in the script(s), and then
>>> looking at the files it dumps in /tmp.
>>>
>>> This is all a sendmail config issue, nothing really to do with MailScanner.
>>> -----------------------------------
>>> Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
>>> Senior Server System Administrator
>>> Colby College,
>>> 4214 Mayflower Hill,
>>> Waterville ME, 04901-8842
>>> 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
>>> Eastern Time Zone, USA
>>> -----------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Well, I'm not sure what's going on but I keep getting the message in
>>> maillog
>>> > "Service unavailable".
>>> >
>>> > I soft linked in /etc/smrsh the name of the perl script to the modified
>>> > script you provided me, added the line in aliases, ran newaliases and
>>> > restarted MailScanner.
>>> >
>>> > My sendmail.cf already had the MProg line configured properly.
>>> >
>>> > I'm running Centos 6, by the way. Any clues? the smrsh is a little generic
>>> > to provide a lot, since it references the smrsh.c file, which I don't have
>>> > on my system.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > steve
>>> > On 12/21/2012 10:52 AM, Jeff Earickson wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Steve,
>>> >
>>> > Since you use sendmail, have I got just the perl scripts for you.  See
>>> > attached.
>>> >
>>> > If you want to see how this script performs in the real world, send
>>> > email to "tjchrist at colby.edu",
>>> > a person who has left and has a redirect set via redirectstaff.pl.
>>> >
>>> > For redirect+forwarding, see the redirectstu.pl script.  However, you
>>> > **really** don't want to do this.
>>> > Set a redirect and that is it.  Forwarding will bite you (or him) at some
>>> > point.
>>> >
>>> > -----------------------------------
>>> > Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
>>> > Senior Server System Administrator
>>> > Colby College,
>>> > 4214 Mayflower Hill,
>>> > Waterville ME, 04901-8842
>>> > 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
>>> > Eastern Time Zone, USA
>>> > -----------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I've been asked to do  a dual task for one of our users. The user is
>>> > retiring and wants all of his email forwarded to another user. He also
>>> > wants a message returned to the sender indicating that he is retiring
>>> > and that from here on, all email should be addressed to the user his
>>> > email is being forwarded to.
>>> >
>>> > I use sendmail, so the forwarding would normally be done in the alias
>>> > file. I don't like to do out-of-office requests, but this seems like a
>>> > way to handle the message he wants returned to the sender. I'm not sure
>>> > both would work at the same time anyway.
>>> >
>>> > I use  the user's .procmailrc to handle the OOO stuff.
>>> >
>>> > Can anyone suggest a better way to do this or an opinion on how I'm
>>> > thinking of doing this please?
>>> >
>>> > I'd rather the retiring user to have handled the sender's notices before
>>> > leaving but that's not going to happen.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for any input.
>>> >
>>> > steve campbell
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > MailScanner mailing list
>>> > mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>>> > http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>> >
>>> > Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>>> >
>>> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > MailScanner mailing list
>>> > mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>>> > http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>> >
>>> > Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>>> >
>>> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>>> >
>>> --
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>>> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>>> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>>
>>> Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>>>
>>> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>
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>
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From campbell at cnpapers.com  Wed Dec 26 14:31:31 2012
From: campbell at cnpapers.com (Steve Campbell)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:31:31 -0500
Subject: OT: Opinions wanted please
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Alex,

Thanks. I do in fact use such a system as what you describe for the simple
out-of-office functions. The scripts that Jeff provided seems like a good fit
for the out-of-office-forever that's needed. I try to avoid OOO any time I can
by telling people the down sides of OOO, and they usually go along with my
suggestions. It's the never-happy users that insist on using OOO, and they're
also the ones that complain about the added spam they receive once OOO is
cancelled. Since it's usually our sales reps that request OOO, I suggest they
create a list of clients in their Address Books to notify everyone of their
vacancy, but they say that's way too much work. Prima Donna types, you know.

Hope everyone had a good holiday!

steve



Quoting Alex Neuman <alex at vidadigital.com.pa>:

> I would use an autoreply message like the one created by Webmin, since
> you can tell it *not* to reply a second time if the e-mail comes in
> before a certain timeframe. This prevents loops a bit further and
> lessens the impact a busy account might have, since it only sends an
> autoreply if a sender hasn't written in more than X minutes since last
> time.
> 
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby.edu> wrote:
> > Steve,
> >
> > I see from a later email that you got it working, but to answer your
> > question, I have
> > an alias for "ls":
> >
> > ls      /usr/bin/ls -CFl
> >
> > So one of those options puts an asterisk at the end of files that are
> > executable.
> > Sorry about that, that could puzzle you.  Glad you got it working.
> >
> > Even though we moved Colby's email to Google 3 or 4 years ago, we have
> > never been
> > able to get rid of our legacy email server (now virtual); one of the
> > big reasons is that
> > we don't want to loose our redirect feature from these perl scripts.
> > They are very handy.
> >
> > -----------------------------------
> > Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
> > Senior Server System Administrator
> > Colby College,
> > 4214 Mayflower Hill,
> > Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> > 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
> > Eastern Time Zone, USA
> > -----------------------------------
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
> wrote:
> >> Jeff,
> >>
> >> My Mprog line is identical to yours. It's the default of the Centos
> install.
> >>
> >> I don't have a directory under /usr named "adm" or a directory anywhere on
> my
> >> system named sm.bin. Do you think I should create it? yum shows no package
> that
> >> provides it as well.
> >>
> >> What does the "*" at the end of the /etc/mail/redirectstu.pl* represent?
> >>
> >> I realize MailScanner doesn't come into play here, but that's how I start
> and
> >> restart sendmail. I've got mailman running on another older system that
> uses the
> >> same scheme, so I tried to compare what was there. The files on that
> system are
> >> in /etc/smrsh. I'll do a little googling to see what I can find on Centos
> 6.3 smrsh.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the help. I'll be working on this from home since I need this
> done by
> >> Monday.
> >>
> >> Quoting Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby.edu>:
> >>
> >>> Steve,
> >>>
> >>> I am running all of this on Redhat 6.3, same as Centos.  I build and
> >>> install sendmail from source code, so I have the /usr/sbin/smrsh on my
> >>> system.  My /usr/adm/sm.bin directory looks like so:
> >>>
> >>> (106)> ls -l
> >>> total 0
> >>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 26 Apr 12  2011 redirectstaff.pl ->
> >>> /etc/mail/redirectstaff.pl*
> >>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 24 Apr 12  2011 redirectstu.pl ->
> >>> /etc/mail/redirectstu.pl*
> >>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 17 Apr 12  2011 vacation -> /usr/bin/vacation*
> >>>
> >>> Where the perl scripts I attached reside in /etc/mail, chown
> >>> root:mail, chmod 755.  The Mprog line in my sendmail.cf looks like:
> >>>
> >>> Mprog,                P=/usr/sbin/smrsh, F=lsDFMoqeu9,
> S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL,
> >>> R=EnvToL/HdrToL, D=$z:/,
> >>>
> >>> I would suggest using the debug feature in the script(s), and then
> >>> looking at the files it dumps in /tmp.
> >>>
> >>> This is all a sendmail config issue, nothing really to do with
> MailScanner.
> >>> -----------------------------------
> >>> Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
> >>> Senior Server System Administrator
> >>> Colby College,
> >>> 4214 Mayflower Hill,
> >>> Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> >>> 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
> >>> Eastern Time Zone, USA
> >>> -----------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Well, I'm not sure what's going on but I keep getting the message in
> >>> maillog
> >>> > "Service unavailable".
> >>> >
> >>> > I soft linked in /etc/smrsh the name of the perl script to the
> modified
> >>> > script you provided me, added the line in aliases, ran newaliases and
> >>> > restarted MailScanner.
> >>> >
> >>> > My sendmail.cf already had the MProg line configured properly.
> >>> >
> >>> > I'm running Centos 6, by the way. Any clues? the smrsh is a little
> generic
> >>> > to provide a lot, since it references the smrsh.c file, which I don't
> have
> >>> > on my system.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks
> >>> >
> >>> > steve
> >>> > On 12/21/2012 10:52 AM, Jeff Earickson wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Steve,
> >>> >
> >>> > Since you use sendmail, have I got just the perl scripts for you.  See
> >>> > attached.
> >>> >
> >>> > If you want to see how this script performs in the real world, send
> >>> > email to "tjchrist at colby.edu",
> >>> > a person who has left and has a redirect set via redirectstaff.pl.
> >>> >
> >>> > For redirect+forwarding, see the redirectstu.pl script.  However, you
> >>> > **really** don't want to do this.
> >>> > Set a redirect and that is it.  Forwarding will bite you (or him) at
> some
> >>> > point.
> >>> >
> >>> > -----------------------------------
> >>> > Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
> >>> > Senior Server System Administrator
> >>> > Colby College,
> >>> > 4214 Mayflower Hill,
> >>> > Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> >>> > 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
> >>> > Eastern Time Zone, USA
> >>> > -----------------------------------
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Steve Campbell
> <campbell at cnpapers.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I've been asked to do  a dual task for one of our users. The user is
> >>> > retiring and wants all of his email forwarded to another user. He also
> >>> > wants a message returned to the sender indicating that he is retiring
> >>> > and that from here on, all email should be addressed to the user his
> >>> > email is being forwarded to.
> >>> >
> >>> > I use sendmail, so the forwarding would normally be done in the alias
> >>> > file. I don't like to do out-of-office requests, but this seems like a
> >>> > way to handle the message he wants returned to the sender. I'm not
> sure
> >>> > both would work at the same time anyway.
> >>> >
> >>> > I use  the user's .procmailrc to handle the OOO stuff.
> >>> >
> >>> > Can anyone suggest a better way to do this or an opinion on how I'm
> >>> > thinking of doing this please?
> >>> >
> >>> > I'd rather the retiring user to have handled the sender's notices
> before
> >>> > leaving but that's not going to happen.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks for any input.
> >>> >
> >>> > steve campbell
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > MailScanner mailing list
> >>> > mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> >>> > http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
> >>> >
> >>> > Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
> >>> >
> >>> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > MailScanner mailing list
> >>> > mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> >>> > http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
> >>> >
> >>> > Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
> >>> >
> >>> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
> >>> >
> >>> --
> >>> MailScanner mailing list
> >>> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> >>> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
> >>>
> >>> Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
> >>>
> >>> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
> > --
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> > mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> > http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
> >
> > Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
> >
> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> --
> 
> Alex Neuman van der Hans
> Reliant Technologies / Vida Digital
> http://vidadigital.com.pa/
> 
> +507-6781-9505
> +507-832-6725
> +1-440-253-9789 (USA)
> 
> Follow @AlexNeuman on Twitter
> http://facebook.com/vidadigital
> 
> 
> -- So-called "legal disclaimers" are not legally binding, so don't
> bother. A cute graphic saying "save the planet, don't print this" can
> potentially create more CO2, not less, so don't bother either.
> -- 
> MailScanner mailing list
> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
> 
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> 
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From alex at vidadigital.com.pa  Wed Dec 26 16:03:50 2012
From: alex at vidadigital.com.pa (Alex Neuman)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:03:50 -0500
Subject: OT: Opinions wanted please
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These are the same types that believe in DSN messages.

I once had an argument with one of these types, about how "your
message was delivered" and "your message was read" messages are
completely bogus, useless and only serve to add complexity - and added
"if you still want me to honor DSN's, reply back with the word
"Giraffe" in the subject line.

Needless to say, he did not - he just replied "OK", which meant he did
*not*, in fact, read the whole message. He learned his lesson, and now
uses "actionable items" in order to make sure people actually read,
understood, and would act upon any messages requiring confirmation.

On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com> wrote:
> Alex,
>
> Thanks. I do in fact use such a system as what you describe for the simple
> out-of-office functions. The scripts that Jeff provided seems like a good fit
> for the out-of-office-forever that's needed. I try to avoid OOO any time I can
> by telling people the down sides of OOO, and they usually go along with my
> suggestions. It's the never-happy users that insist on using OOO, and they're
> also the ones that complain about the added spam they receive once OOO is
> cancelled. Since it's usually our sales reps that request OOO, I suggest they
> create a list of clients in their Address Books to notify everyone of their
> vacancy, but they say that's way too much work. Prima Donna types, you know.
>
> Hope everyone had a good holiday!
>
> steve
>
>
>
> Quoting Alex Neuman <alex at vidadigital.com.pa>:
>
>> I would use an autoreply message like the one created by Webmin, since
>> you can tell it *not* to reply a second time if the e-mail comes in
>> before a certain timeframe. This prevents loops a bit further and
>> lessens the impact a busy account might have, since it only sends an
>> autoreply if a sender hasn't written in more than X minutes since last
>> time.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby.edu> wrote:
>> > Steve,
>> >
>> > I see from a later email that you got it working, but to answer your
>> > question, I have
>> > an alias for "ls":
>> >
>> > ls      /usr/bin/ls -CFl
>> >
>> > So one of those options puts an asterisk at the end of files that are
>> > executable.
>> > Sorry about that, that could puzzle you.  Glad you got it working.
>> >
>> > Even though we moved Colby's email to Google 3 or 4 years ago, we have
>> > never been
>> > able to get rid of our legacy email server (now virtual); one of the
>> > big reasons is that
>> > we don't want to loose our redirect feature from these perl scripts.
>> > They are very handy.
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------
>> > Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
>> > Senior Server System Administrator
>> > Colby College,
>> > 4214 Mayflower Hill,
>> > Waterville ME, 04901-8842
>> > 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
>> > Eastern Time Zone, USA
>> > -----------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Jeff,
>> >>
>> >> My Mprog line is identical to yours. It's the default of the Centos
>> install.
>> >>
>> >> I don't have a directory under /usr named "adm" or a directory anywhere on
>> my
>> >> system named sm.bin. Do you think I should create it? yum shows no package
>> that
>> >> provides it as well.
>> >>
>> >> What does the "*" at the end of the /etc/mail/redirectstu.pl* represent?
>> >>
>> >> I realize MailScanner doesn't come into play here, but that's how I start
>> and
>> >> restart sendmail. I've got mailman running on another older system that
>> uses the
>> >> same scheme, so I tried to compare what was there. The files on that
>> system are
>> >> in /etc/smrsh. I'll do a little googling to see what I can find on Centos
>> 6.3 smrsh.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the help. I'll be working on this from home since I need this
>> done by
>> >> Monday.
>> >>
>> >> Quoting Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby.edu>:
>> >>
>> >>> Steve,
>> >>>
>> >>> I am running all of this on Redhat 6.3, same as Centos.  I build and
>> >>> install sendmail from source code, so I have the /usr/sbin/smrsh on my
>> >>> system.  My /usr/adm/sm.bin directory looks like so:
>> >>>
>> >>> (106)> ls -l
>> >>> total 0
>> >>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 26 Apr 12  2011 redirectstaff.pl ->
>> >>> /etc/mail/redirectstaff.pl*
>> >>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 24 Apr 12  2011 redirectstu.pl ->
>> >>> /etc/mail/redirectstu.pl*
>> >>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 17 Apr 12  2011 vacation -> /usr/bin/vacation*
>> >>>
>> >>> Where the perl scripts I attached reside in /etc/mail, chown
>> >>> root:mail, chmod 755.  The Mprog line in my sendmail.cf looks like:
>> >>>
>> >>> Mprog,                P=/usr/sbin/smrsh, F=lsDFMoqeu9,
>> S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL,
>> >>> R=EnvToL/HdrToL, D=$z:/,
>> >>>
>> >>> I would suggest using the debug feature in the script(s), and then
>> >>> looking at the files it dumps in /tmp.
>> >>>
>> >>> This is all a sendmail config issue, nothing really to do with
>> MailScanner.
>> >>> -----------------------------------
>> >>> Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
>> >>> Senior Server System Administrator
>> >>> Colby College,
>> >>> 4214 Mayflower Hill,
>> >>> Waterville ME, 04901-8842
>> >>> 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
>> >>> Eastern Time Zone, USA
>> >>> -----------------------------------
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Well, I'm not sure what's going on but I keep getting the message in
>> >>> maillog
>> >>> > "Service unavailable".
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I soft linked in /etc/smrsh the name of the perl script to the
>> modified
>> >>> > script you provided me, added the line in aliases, ran newaliases and
>> >>> > restarted MailScanner.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > My sendmail.cf already had the MProg line configured properly.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I'm running Centos 6, by the way. Any clues? the smrsh is a little
>> generic
>> >>> > to provide a lot, since it references the smrsh.c file, which I don't
>> have
>> >>> > on my system.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks
>> >>> >
>> >>> > steve
>> >>> > On 12/21/2012 10:52 AM, Jeff Earickson wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Steve,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Since you use sendmail, have I got just the perl scripts for you.  See
>> >>> > attached.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > If you want to see how this script performs in the real world, send
>> >>> > email to "tjchrist at colby.edu",
>> >>> > a person who has left and has a redirect set via redirectstaff.pl.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > For redirect+forwarding, see the redirectstu.pl script.  However, you
>> >>> > **really** don't want to do this.
>> >>> > Set a redirect and that is it.  Forwarding will bite you (or him) at
>> some
>> >>> > point.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > -----------------------------------
>> >>> > Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
>> >>> > Senior Server System Administrator
>> >>> > Colby College,
>> >>> > 4214 Mayflower Hill,
>> >>> > Waterville ME, 04901-8842
>> >>> > 207-859-4214 (fax 207-859-4186)
>> >>> > Eastern Time Zone, USA
>> >>> > -----------------------------------
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Steve Campbell
>> <campbell at cnpapers.com>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I've been asked to do  a dual task for one of our users. The user is
>> >>> > retiring and wants all of his email forwarded to another user. He also
>> >>> > wants a message returned to the sender indicating that he is retiring
>> >>> > and that from here on, all email should be addressed to the user his
>> >>> > email is being forwarded to.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I use sendmail, so the forwarding would normally be done in the alias
>> >>> > file. I don't like to do out-of-office requests, but this seems like a
>> >>> > way to handle the message he wants returned to the sender. I'm not
>> sure
>> >>> > both would work at the same time anyway.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I use  the user's .procmailrc to handle the OOO stuff.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Can anyone suggest a better way to do this or an opinion on how I'm
>> >>> > thinking of doing this please?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I'd rather the retiring user to have handled the sender's notices
>> before
>> >>> > leaving but that's not going to happen.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks for any input.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > steve campbell
>> >>> >
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>> >>> >
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>> >>> >
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>> >>>
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>> >
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>> >
>> > Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
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>>
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>>
>> Alex Neuman van der Hans
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>> http://vidadigital.com.pa/
>>
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>>
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>> bother. A cute graphic saying "save the planet, don't print this" can
>> potentially create more CO2, not less, so don't bother either.
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>>
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>>
>> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>>
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------
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> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
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>
> Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>
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-- 

--

Alex Neuman van der Hans
Reliant Technologies / Vida Digital
http://vidadigital.com.pa/

+507-6781-9505
+507-832-6725
+1-440-253-9789 (USA)

Follow @AlexNeuman on Twitter
http://facebook.com/vidadigital


-- So-called "legal disclaimers" are not legally binding, so don't
bother. A cute graphic saying "save the planet, don't print this" can
potentially create more CO2, not less, so don't bother either.

From ram at netcore.co.in  Fri Dec 28 09:47:14 2012
From: ram at netcore.co.in (Ram)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:17:14 +0530
Subject: Sign Clean Messages not working without -U
Message-ID: <50DD6AA2.7000602@netcore.co.in>

I have  MailScanner version 4.84.5 on CentOS 6

Even if I set in MailScanner.conf

Sign Clean Messages = yes

messages  dont get signed.
I enabled the -U switch in /usr/sbin/MailScanner and now it works but 
with warnings
like this

Insecure dependency in open while running with -T switch at 
/usr/lib64/perl5/IO/File.pm line 185.


What does this mean ?  Is -U not recommended ?



Thanks
Ram



From ram at netcore.co.in  Fri Dec 28 09:12:45 2012
From: ram at netcore.co.in (Ram)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:42:45 +0530
Subject: Sign Clean Messages not working without -U
Message-ID: <50DD628D.60501@netcore.co.in>

I have  MailScanner version 4.84.5 on CentOS 6

Even if I set in MailScanner.conf

Sign Clean Messages = yes

messages  dont get signed.
I enabled the -U switch in /usr/sbin/MailScanner and now it works but 
with warnings
like this

Insecure dependency in open while running with -T switch at 
/usr/lib64/perl5/IO/File.pm line 185.


What does this mean ?  Is -U not recommended ?



Thanks
Ram








From mailborder at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 16:36:21 2012
From: mailborder at gmail.com (Mailborder at Gmail)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:36:21 +0100
Subject: Sign Clean Messages not working without -U
In-Reply-To: <50DD6AA2.7000602@netcore.co.in>
References: <50DD6AA2.7000602@netcore.co.in>
Message-ID: <CANK23U09rSkt7ReGfJEc+put7ZQnEH=S+BZZNWvAauBQu0t9SQ@mail.gmail.com>

I am sure you have already tried this, but do you get any strange errors
running:

MailScanner --lint

?

I have my share of odd behavior on CentOS 6 as well, but mine mostly
revolves around clam AV and permissions. Speaking of that, any errors in
the /var/log/audit/audit.log ?


Jerry Benton
www.mailborder.com


On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Ram <ram at netcore.co.in> wrote:

> I have  MailScanner version 4.84.5 on CentOS 6
>
> Even if I set in MailScanner.conf
>
> Sign Clean Messages = yes
>
> messages  dont get signed.
> I enabled the -U switch in /usr/sbin/MailScanner and now it works but
> with warnings
> like this
>
> Insecure dependency in open while running with -T switch at
> /usr/lib64/perl5/IO/File.pm line 185.
>
>
> What does this mean ?  Is -U not recommended ?
>
>
>
> Thanks
> Ram
>
>
> --
> MailScanner mailing list
> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>
> Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>
> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>
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