MS Doesn't completely block spam with faulty attachments

Jules Field MailScanner at ecs.soton.ac.uk
Thu Sep 1 18:41:35 IST 2011


Have you considered using something like "deny+delete" in your 
filename.rules.conf instead of just "deny"? There are all sorts of 
clever things you can do in those files. It's all documented at the top 
of the default files I ship in the distribution.

Jules.

On 01/09/2011 18:06, Joolee wrote:
> The problem with the current spam is that they're blocked for 
> containing exe files, not double file extensions (Although they 
> woul've hit that one if exe's were not clocked.)
>
> Only quick temporary solution is to disable all file-name validation 
> because this can occur with more than just exe files and double 
> extensions. This is no final solution though.
>
> On 1 September 2011 18:40, Kevin Miller <Kevin_Miller at ci.juneau.ak.us 
> <mailto:Kevin_Miller at ci.juneau.ak.us>> wrote:
>
>     Easiest thing to do in that case is to comment out the line in
>     filename.rules.conf that disallows double extensions.  The message
>     will be accepted as normal and go through the additional tests (is
>     it an executable, is it a virus, is it spam, etc.)
>
>     ...Kevin
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>     *Joolee
>     *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2011 7:32 AM
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>     *Subject:* Re: MS Doesn't completely block spam with faulty
>     attachments
>
>     I agree that it isn't a good idea to notify the sender of a spam
>     or virus message I'm not planning to do that, I know the troubles
>     of backscatter.
>
>     What I've configured is that if a user sends a completely normal
>     (non-virus, non-spam) E-mail but with, for instance, a file named
>     "CurriculumVitae.doc.pdf" (default output for a lot of PDF
>     printers). The server sends out a warning to sender and the
>     original message stripped of it's attachment to the recipient of
>     the message. Notifying the sender is not strictly necessary but if
>     this is only done for such non-virus, non-spam message, it isn't a
>     problem either.
>
>     The situation that bugs me is when some spam message with a file
>     named "CurriculumVitae.doc.pdf" is received. The message hits the
>     filename rule and*isn't processed any further to check if its a
>     spam message*. Because it isn't processed any further, the warning
>     messages are send out to both sender and original recipient.
>
>     As I stated before, I can disable the sender notification. What I
>     can't do is tell my customers (the recipients) that such wrongly
>     named files, most containing important documents, are silently
>     discarded. Sending spam to my customers that could have been
>     recognized isn't an option either.
>
>     The simplest solution, I think, would be to *continue processing*
>     the message after a file name rule is hit, decide if the E-mail is
>     HAM and in that case, send out the notifications. If the E-mail is
>     spam, silently discard it.
>     It would add a bit of load to the server but stopping spam is what
>     it's all about, isn't it? :P
>
>     On 1 September 2011 16:34, Julian Field
>     <MailScanner at ecs.soton.ac.uk <mailto:MailScanner at ecs.soton.ac.uk>>
>     wrote:
>
>         He's probably switched on some "Notify Senders" options. Bad
>         idea :-(
>
>
>         On 01/09/2011 12:32, Martin Hepworth wrote:
>
>             what version of MS?
>
>             I never inform the sender of junk as you end up with fake
>             messages sent out.
>
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>             Oxford, UK
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>
>             On 1 September 2011 08:17, Joolee <mailscanner at joolee.nl
>             <mailto:mailscanner at joolee.nl>
>             <mailto:mailscanner at joolee.nl
>             <mailto:mailscanner at joolee.nl>>> wrote:
>
>                Hallo Everybody,
>
>                I've experienced a small flood of virus E-mails. These
>             E-mails
>                (subj.: "ACH Payment *random number* Canceled") contain
>                attachments named like: "report_082011-65.pdf.exe"
>                They obviously get blocked by the "no executables" and
>             "No double
>                file extensions" rules. The problem is that after
>             blocking them,
>                an automated E-mail is send to the original recipient
>             and the     (faked) sender of the message, informing them
>             of the blocked
>                attachment.
>
>                Had the E-mails been processed further, they would've
>             probably hit
>                the virusscanner (not tested) or spamassassin (gives a
>             score of 27
>                when tested) and the E-mail would've silently been
>             discarded as a
>                virus / spam / phishing.
>
>                Is it possible to let the MailScanner continue it's
>             processing
>                when hitting the file name rules and / or running the
>             filename
>                rule at a later time?
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