"include path-to-conf-files" in 4.78.9

Mike Wallace mike at mlrw.com
Sat Aug 29 03:04:20 IST 2009 

It's wasn't a issue it was a user error.

On Aug 28, 2009, at 9:47 PM, Jules Field wrote:

> Is the problem with the "Spam Score Header" not being inserted still  
> a problem, or is that fixed now too?
> Just want to know if I incidentally fixed it, or whether I need to  
> go on another hunt for that one.
>
> Cheers,
> Jules.
>
> On 28/08/2009 17:05, Mike Wallace wrote:
>> Tested 4.78.14 and everything looks fine with includes.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Jules Field wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27/08/2009 13:11, Mike Wallace wrote:
>>>> I will try 4.78.13 latter today and let you know how is works.
>>>>
>>>> I figured out a way to get around the first issue and third  
>>>> issues. I can either edit all of the %variables% in  
>>>> MailScanner.conf or add "include /etc/MailScanner/site.conf" to   
>>>> MailScanner.conf after the variables to define them and eliminate  
>>>> them in the conf.d include.
>>> I figured you would do that.
>>>>
>>>> The variable fix did not fix the "Spam Score Header" not being  
>>>> inserted.
>>> Interesting. I'll have to take a look at that one again, but  
>>> probably not tonight.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Jules Field wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have just published the work I did last night, as described  
>>>>> below.
>>>>> Please download 4.78.13 from the usual place.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the scripts and files such as /etc/sysconfig/MailScanner  
>>>>> will now read MailScanner.conf settings with support for  
>>>>> included files.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jules.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27/08/2009 01:06, Jules Field wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26/08/2009 21:30, Mike Wallace wrote:
>>>>>>> I hate to spoil your holiday but I tried 4.78.12 and still  
>>>>>>> found some issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1)    In my configuration I am using all of the default values  
>>>>>>> in MailScanner.conf for these headers and %org-name% is not  
>>>>>>> being inserted:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Information Header
>>>>>>> ID Header
>>>>>>> Spam Header
>>>>>>> Envelope From Header
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't know if this is true for all default Headers that don't  
>>>>>>> get overridden.
>>>>>> The %variables% are substituted when the conf files are read,  
>>>>>> ie. at "compile time".
>>>>>> Otherwise, to substitute them when the value is calculated, I  
>>>>>> would have to know exactly where each variable was set and what  
>>>>>> value the variables all had at that time.
>>>>>> All I can suggest is an include line after the initial %var%  
>>>>>> setting near the top of MailScanner.conf, which sets your  
>>>>>> values of the %variables%. Then at the bottom you include your  
>>>>>> new local settings, and so everything in the MailScanner.conf  
>>>>>> file (and all included files) will inherit your values of them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whenever I evaluate "MailScanner Header =" in MailScanner when  
>>>>>> it is running, I cannot easily know exactly what %variables%  
>>>>>> were set to what where the "MailScanner Header" was defined by  
>>>>>> you (as you probably will have the default value + at least 1  
>>>>>> over-ride for it). I can only substitute all the %% stuff in  
>>>>>> when "MailScanner Header =" is read in at the start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other solution is, when you redefine a %% that is used by a  
>>>>>> whole bunch of settings, you also redefine each of the settings  
>>>>>> that uses it, so they all inherit *your* %% definition, and not  
>>>>>> mine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, but I cannot see any way around this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2)    I did not get "Spam Score Header" inserted even though  
>>>>>>> "Spam Score = yes".
>>>>>> Don't know about that one, but it may be related to (1).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3)    In my include I have %report-dir% = /etc/MailScanner/ 
>>>>>>> reports/myreports, this is not being overridden I am getting  
>>>>>>> the default reports.
>>>>>> See (1).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4)    Putting the MTA in an include file breaks /etc/sysconfig/ 
>>>>>>> MailScanner as it's extracting the MTA from /etc/MailScanner/ 
>>>>>>> MailScanner.conf.
>>>>>> I have written a new /usr/sbin/Quick.Peek script which is  
>>>>>> called from all the places like /etc/sysconfig/MailScanner to  
>>>>>> search all the included files correctly for your over-rides.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's all I've found so far.
>>>>>> All very much appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. Now I must go to bed, it's just gone 1 am ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Jules Field wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Correction. Teensy bug removed, which you would hopefully not  
>>>>>>>> hit anyway, but might if your main MailScanner.conf file is  
>>>>>>>> very old.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Try 4.78.12.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 26/08/2009 22:19, Jules Field wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Should be all fixed now. Sorry for the lousy testing on my  
>>>>>>>>> part before I released 10.
>>>>>>>>> 11 correctly picks up %org-name% and "Run As User" when set  
>>>>>>>>> in an included file, no problems. So all the others should  
>>>>>>>>> work correctly now too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please give 11 a try.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As for the website, it has definitely been updated, so I  
>>>>>>>>> suspect your browser's caching it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Jules.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 26/08/2009 21:49, Mike Wallace wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I found a couple of things
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1) I like how MailScanner --lint shows what configuration  
>>>>>>>>>> files were read and my configuration was read last.
>>>>>>>>>> 2) Found a couple of parameters that are still not being  
>>>>>>>>>> imported from my config:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> %org-name% =
>>>>>>>>>> Run As User =
>>>>>>>>>> Run As Group =
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The org-name shows up when running --lint "ERROR: The  
>>>>>>>>>> "envelope_sender_header" in your spam.assassin.prefs.conf  
>>>>>>>>>> is not correct, it should match X-yoursite-MailScanner- 
>>>>>>>>>> From". In 78.9 the message was "ERROR: The  
>>>>>>>>>> "envelope_sender_header" in your spam.assassin.prefs.conf  
>>>>>>>>>> is not correct, it should match X-mlrw_com-MailScanner-From".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As for the Run As, when I do a ps I see that MailScanner is  
>>>>>>>>>> running as root and not postfix.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3) One thing to help with debugging would be if you had a  
>>>>>>>>>> command like postconf to display what configuration  
>>>>>>>>>> parameters are being used. Or could you guide me on how to  
>>>>>>>>>> dump the configuration.
>>>>>>>>>> 4) The link on the MailScanner website still shows 4.78.9  
>>>>>>>>>> as the current beta release.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Jules Field wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you do me a big favour and give it a good try and  
>>>>>>>>>>> report back if anything doesn't work?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> Jules.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/08/2009 16:22, Mike Wallace wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jules,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, I'm glad you liked my suggestion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't expect any updates until next week when you got  
>>>>>>>>>>>> back to the UK.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You are a gentleman and a scholar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Jules Field wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/08/2009 18:36, Mike Wallace wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jules,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you are enjoying or enjoyed (based on when you  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read this) your well deserved vacation in the States.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Enjoying" thanks :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been playing with "include path-to-conf-files"  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 4.78.9 and found a couple of limitations that I want  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to verify.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems that the following parameters are ignored when  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the include file:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> %org-name% =
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> %org-long-name% =
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> %web-site% =
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Run As User =
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Run As Group =
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MTA =
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this by design or a "feature"? Are their other  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parameters that can't be in the include file?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fixed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reason I ask is that I am trying to put all of my  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site specific configuration changes in the include file  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that the only thing I have to do to MailScanner.conf  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is add "include /etc/MailScanner/config/mysite.conf".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be awesome if you had "include /etc/ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MailScanner/config/*.conf" in MailScanner.conf.  Then  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if the directory or and/or any files in that directory  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did not exist, they would be ignored. That way those  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who don't want to use it can edit the configuration  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file like they always have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Done. I've called it "/conf.d/" instead of your "/ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> config/" as that is more standard these days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There should be a little README file in that directory  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so it has something short to parse so the include line  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the very end of MailScanner.conf won't whine that it  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't find any files matching conf.d/*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have just released 4.78.10 for your pleasure :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jules
>>>>>
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