"include path-to-conf-files" in 4.78.9

[Jules Field]

On 27/08/2009 13:11, Mike Wallace wrote:
> I will try 4.78.13 latter today and let you know how is works.
>
> I figured out a way to get around the first issue and third issues. I 
> can either edit all of the %variables% in MailScanner.conf or add 
> "include /etc/MailScanner/site.conf" to  MailScanner.conf after the 
> variables to define them and eliminate them in the conf.d include.
I figured you would do that.
>
> The variable fix did not fix the "Spam Score Header" not being inserted.
Interesting. I'll have to take a look at that one again, but probably 
not tonight.

>
> Mike
>
>
> On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Jules Field wrote:
>
>> I have just published the work I did last night, as described below.
>> Please download 4.78.13 from the usual place.
>>
>> All the scripts and files such as /etc/sysconfig/MailScanner will now 
>> read MailScanner.conf settings with support for included files.
>>
>> Jules.
>>
>> On 27/08/2009 01:06, Jules Field wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/08/2009 21:30, Mike Wallace wrote:
>>>> I hate to spoil your holiday but I tried 4.78.12 and still found 
>>>> some issues.
>>>>
>>>> 1)    In my configuration I am using all of the default values in 
>>>> MailScanner.conf for these headers and %org-name% is not being 
>>>> inserted:
>>>>
>>>> Information Header
>>>> ID Header
>>>> Spam Header
>>>> Envelope From Header
>>>>
>>>> Don't know if this is true for all default Headers that don't get 
>>>> overridden.
>>> The %variables% are substituted when the conf files are read, ie. at 
>>> "compile time".
>>> Otherwise, to substitute them when the value is calculated, I would 
>>> have to know exactly where each variable was set and what value the 
>>> variables all had at that time.
>>> All I can suggest is an include line after the initial %var% setting 
>>> near the top of MailScanner.conf, which sets your values of the 
>>> %variables%. Then at the bottom you include your new local settings, 
>>> and so everything in the MailScanner.conf file (and all included 
>>> files) will inherit your values of them.
>>>
>>> Whenever I evaluate "MailScanner Header =" in MailScanner when it is 
>>> running, I cannot easily know exactly what %variables% were set to 
>>> what where the "MailScanner Header" was defined by you (as you 
>>> probably will have the default value + at least 1 over-ride for it). 
>>> I can only substitute all the %% stuff in when "MailScanner Header 
>>> =" is read in at the start.
>>>
>>> The other solution is, when you redefine a %% that is used by a 
>>> whole bunch of settings, you also redefine each of the settings that 
>>> uses it, so they all inherit *your* %% definition, and not mine.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but I cannot see any way around this.
>>>>
>>>> 2)    I did not get "Spam Score Header" inserted even though "Spam 
>>>> Score = yes".
>>> Don't know about that one, but it may be related to (1).
>>>>
>>>> 3)    In my include I have %report-dir% = 
>>>> /etc/MailScanner/reports/myreports, this is not being overridden I 
>>>> am getting the default reports.
>>> See (1).
>>>>
>>>> 4)    Putting the MTA in an include file breaks 
>>>> /etc/sysconfig/MailScanner as it's extracting the MTA from 
>>>> /etc/MailScanner/MailScanner.conf.
>>> I have written a new /usr/sbin/Quick.Peek script which is called 
>>> from all the places like /etc/sysconfig/MailScanner to search all 
>>> the included files correctly for your over-rides.
>>>>
>>>> That's all I've found so far.
>>> All very much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Jules.
>>>
>>> P.S. Now I must go to bed, it's just gone 1 am ...
>>>
>>>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Jules Field wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Correction. Teensy bug removed, which you would hopefully not hit 
>>>>> anyway, but might if your main MailScanner.conf file is very old.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try 4.78.12.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 26/08/2009 22:19, Jules Field wrote:
>>>>>> Should be all fixed now. Sorry for the lousy testing on my part 
>>>>>> before I released 10.
>>>>>> 11 correctly picks up %org-name% and "Run As User" when set in an 
>>>>>> included file, no problems. So all the others should work 
>>>>>> correctly now too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please give 11 a try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the website, it has definitely been updated, so I suspect 
>>>>>> your browser's caching it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Jules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26/08/2009 21:49, Mike Wallace wrote:
>>>>>>> I found a couple of things
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) I like how MailScanner --lint shows what configuration files 
>>>>>>> were read and my configuration was read last.
>>>>>>> 2) Found a couple of parameters that are still not being 
>>>>>>> imported from my config:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   %org-name% =
>>>>>>>   Run As User =
>>>>>>>   Run As Group =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The org-name shows up when running --lint "ERROR: The 
>>>>>>> "envelope_sender_header" in your spam.assassin.prefs.conf is not 
>>>>>>> correct, it should match X-yoursite-MailScanner-From". In 78.9 
>>>>>>> the message was "ERROR: The "envelope_sender_header" in your 
>>>>>>> spam.assassin.prefs.conf is not correct, it should match 
>>>>>>> X-mlrw_com-MailScanner-From".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for the Run As, when I do a ps I see that MailScanner is 
>>>>>>> running as root and not postfix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) One thing to help with debugging would be if you had a 
>>>>>>> command like postconf to display what configuration parameters 
>>>>>>> are being used. Or could you guide me on how to dump the 
>>>>>>> configuration.
>>>>>>> 4) The link on the MailScanner website still shows 4.78.9 as the 
>>>>>>> current beta release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Jules Field wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you do me a big favour and give it a good try and report 
>>>>>>>> back if anything doesn't work?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>> Jules.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 26/08/2009 16:22, Mike Wallace wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Jules,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, I'm glad you liked my suggestion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I didn't expect any updates until next week when you got back 
>>>>>>>>> to the UK.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are a gentleman and a scholar.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Jules Field wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 25/08/2009 18:36, Mike Wallace wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Jules,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you are enjoying or enjoyed (based on when you read 
>>>>>>>>>>> this) your well deserved vacation in the States.
>>>>>>>>>> "Enjoying" thanks :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have been playing with "include path-to-conf-files" in 
>>>>>>>>>>> 4.78.9 and found a couple of limitations that I want to verify.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It seems that the following parameters are ignored when in 
>>>>>>>>>>> the include file:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> %org-name% =
>>>>>>>>>>> %org-long-name% =
>>>>>>>>>>> %web-site% =
>>>>>>>>>>> Run As User =
>>>>>>>>>>> Run As Group =
>>>>>>>>>>> MTA =
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is this by design or a "feature"? Are their other parameters 
>>>>>>>>>>> that can't be in the include file?
>>>>>>>>>> Fixed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The reason I ask is that I am trying to put all of my site 
>>>>>>>>>>> specific configuration changes in the include file so that 
>>>>>>>>>>> the only thing I have to do to MailScanner.conf is add 
>>>>>>>>>>> "include /etc/MailScanner/config/mysite.conf".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It would be awesome if you had "include 
>>>>>>>>>>> /etc/MailScanner/config/*.conf" in MailScanner.conf.  Then 
>>>>>>>>>>> if the directory or and/or any files in that directory did 
>>>>>>>>>>> not exist, they would be ignored. That way those who don't 
>>>>>>>>>>> want to use it can edit the configuration file like they 
>>>>>>>>>>> always have.
>>>>>>>>>> Done. I've called it "/conf.d/" instead of your "/config/" as 
>>>>>>>>>> that is more standard these days.
>>>>>>>>>> There should be a little README file in that directory so it 
>>>>>>>>>> has something short to parse so the include line at the very 
>>>>>>>>>> end of MailScanner.conf won't whine that it couldn't find any 
>>>>>>>>>> files matching conf.d/*.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have just released 4.78.10 for your pleasure :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>>>>>
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