yum upgrade trouble

Stephen Swaney steve.swaney at fsl.com
Mon Aug 18 16:14:22 IST 2008

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-
> bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Alex Neuman van der Hans
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:22 AM
> To: MailScanner discussion
> Subject: Re: yum upgrade trouble
> What will the subscription be like?
> On Aug 18, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Stephen Swaney wrote:
> > Jan-peter,
> >
> > We'll shortly be announcing a version of MailScanner with all
> > related applications that is completely rpm based using our own yum
> > repositories. MailScanner, SpamAssassin, Razor ClamAV, DCC and Bayes
> > (using Postgres) will all be installed on CentOS 5 / RH 5 simply by
> > running:
> >
> >   yum -y groupinstall MailScannerGold
> >
> > Best of all of the Perl Packages and all of their dependencies are
> > separated from the system libraries. This allows MailScanner and the
> > related applications as well as the system itself to be safely
> > updated by simply running;
> >
> >     yum -y update
> >
> > Now more Perl conflicts since our schema eliminates all of the Perl
> > related problems.
> >
> > This will be a subscription based service with IP based secure keys
> > required to access the repositories. Along with access to the
> > repositories, subscribers will receive reduced support hourly rates.
> >
> > It will be available for testing very shortly. What do you think?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Steve
> >


I meant to release this to only Jan-Peter since we haven't set pricing yet,
Jan-Peter is one of our VARs and I was hoping to get some ideas from him on
what the pricing should be. Also Julian will need to bless the pricing since
part of the revenue will go to Julian to help offset his MailScanner
development and maintenance costs.

But since the cat is out of the bag, I can say that this rpm schema was not
a trivial exercise to develop and will cost a bit to maintain and support
correctly. Currently we're thinking of pricing the service by number of
machines on the site and payment schedule. Paying yearly would be less than
paying monthly. Still we're trying to keep the pricing as affordable as
possible and less than it would cost for a local administrator to perform
the same level of maintenance. If you have any thoughts or suggestions on
pricing or the service please email me off list.

We also hope that a simplified, low cost method of installing and
maintaining complete MailScanner systems will entice others to join the
satisfied group of MailScanner users. 

You can expect a formal announcement of the pricing and availability for
this service soon. 

Best regards,


Steve Swaney
Fort Systems Ltd.
Office Phone: 202 595-7760 ext. 601 
Cell: 202 352-3262
Steve at fsl.com

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