MailScanner Digest, Vol 22, Issue 36
Bjorgen T. Eatinger
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Sat Oct 20 15:50:47 IST 2007
This mailing list is almost completely worthless, since it repeats everything over and over and over. Can you PLEASE upgrade to better list software?
Bjorgen
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: SpamHaus DROP list (Kai Schaetzl)
2. RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner (Damian Rivas)
3. Re: Weird Problem with MailScanner (UxBoD)
4. Re: Weird Problem with MailScanner (UxBoD)
5. Bad Link (UxBoD)
6. RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner (Damian Rivas)
7. Re: building on Red Hat EL v 5 (Julian Field)
8. Re: ****Re: building on Red Hat EL v 5 (Craig White)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:32:06 +0200
From: Kai Schaetzl <maillists at conactive.com>
Subject: Re: SpamHaus DROP list
To: mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
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Alex Neuman van der Hans wrote on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:43:49 -0500:
> That's what I tried to say with my last post.
Oh, at least one person didn't get this :-)
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:38:52 -0300
From: "Damian Rivas" <damian at cht.com.ar>
Subject: RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner
To: "MailScanner discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
Message-ID:
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1) There are 3 MS childs running
2) How do I run MS on debug mode? Sorry for the ignorance, I'm newbie
yet.
3) Attached.
4) 2413 pts/0 S+ 0:00 \_ grep MailScanner
CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/lib/qt/include
MANPATH=/usr/local/man:/usr/man:/usr/X11R6/man:/usr/lib/java/man:/usr/li
b/qt/doc/man:/usr/share/texmf/man HOSTNAME=ns4.cht.com.ar TERM=xterm
SSH_CLIENT=200.55.14.250 58852 22 WINDOW_MANAGER=metacity OLDPWD=/etc
QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/0 USER=root
LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd
=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:ex=01;32:*.bat=01;32:*.BAT=01;32:*.btm=01;32:*.BTM
=01;32:*.cmd=01;32:*.CMD=01;32:*.com=01;32:*.COM=01;32:*.dll=01;32:*.DLL
=01;32:*.exe=01;32:*.EXE=01;32:*.arj=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.gz=
01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.tar=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.tb2=01;31:*.tbz2
=01;31:*.tbz=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.tz2=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.zip=01;
31:*.ZIP=01;31:*.zoo=01;31:*.asf=01;35:*.ASF=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.AVI=01;
35:*.bmp=01;35:*.BMP=01;35:*.flac=01;35:*.FLAC=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.GIF=0
1;35:*.jpg=01;35:*.JPG=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.JPEG=01;35:*.m2a=01;35:*.M2a
=01;35:*.m2v=01;35:*.M2V=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.MOV=01;35:*.mp3=01;35:*.MP3
=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.MPEG=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.MPG=01;35:*.ogg=01;35:*.O
GG=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.rm=01;35:*.RM=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.TGA=01;35:*.tif
=01;35:*.TIF=01;35:*.wav=01;35:*.WAV=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.WMV=01;35:*.xbm
=01;35:*.xpm=01;35: SUDO_USER=daniel GDK_USE_XFT=1 SUDO_UID=1000
KDEDIR=/opt/kde T1LIB_CONFIG=/usr/share/t1lib/t1lib.config MINICOM=-c on
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin
LC_COLLATE=C PWD=/home/daniel INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc
JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/java LANG=en_US PS1=\u@\h:\w\$ PS2=> HOME=/root
SUDO_COMMAND=/bin/su SHLVL=2 LS_OPTIONS= --color=auto -F -b -T 0
LOGNAME=root LESS=-M SSH_CONNECTION=200.55.14.250 58852 200.55.14.251 22
LESSOPEN=|lesspipe.sh %s SUDO_GID=100 _=/bin/grep
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[mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] En nombre de UxBoD
Enviado el: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2007 14:13
Para: MailScanner discussion
Asunto: Re: Weird Problem with MailScanner
Was there anything in /var/log/messages that showed a problem ? How many
MS child processes were set to run ? Even with very little memory it
should at least process some emails. What RBLs were you checking
against ? Quite are few are no longer running so if you are trying to
query them you will get a very long wait and timeouts which maybe where
the problem is.
IMHO you could try removing the RBL list from your MailScanner.conf so
at least virri scanning is still performed, and see if that makes a
difference.
We really need to see the following :-
1) Number of MS child processes set to spawn
2) MS run in debug mode
3) A lint of your SA configuration
4) ps ef | grep MailScanner when the problem is occuring
Hope we can help you.
Regards,
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From: "Damian Rivas" <damian at cht.com.ar>
To: "MailScanner discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:37:35 PM (GMT) Africa/Casablanca
Subject: RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner
Mensaje
Yeah, I was thinking in upgrading the hardware, but for me that means:
installing an entirely new server. But I wanted to know if it can be a
software error to fix the problem at least temporarily to give me time
to install the new and upgraded server.
Thanks for the data on memory minimun recommendation Gareth.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
[mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] En nombre de Gareth
Enviado el: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2007 13:32
Para: MailScanner discussion
Asunto: RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner
I would say it is seriously in need of a memory upgrade. The minimum
recomendation is 1GB.
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From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
[mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Damian
Rivas
Sent: 19 October 2007 17:22
To: mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
Subject: Weird Problem with MailScanner
Hi there, I'm having a really weird problem and as I am a n00b it gets a
bit more difficult to find a solution.
I'll explain the details first:
Since 6 months ago, I am the System Administrator of a Tourism Agency.
We use an E-mail Scanner in a server with the following characteristics:
Processor: Pentium II 233 Mhz.
RAM: 128 MB
OS: Linux Slackware 9
MailScanner version: 4.55.10
This E-mail Scanner use the MailScanner with Sophos Antivirus and Spam
Assasin to filter spam and scan incoming and outcoming mails for viruses
which are then redirected to an internal MS Exchange Server or to the
Internet, respectively by sendmail.
One month ago, the server started behaving erratically. Instead of
checking and sending mails as it normally did, it started queueing mails
massively and therefore accumulating great quantities of them, it got up
to 10000 mails queued up in a single day, therefore, no one recieved a
single mail. After many pointless attempts to repair this problem and
seeing that the Travel Agents were getting a bit mad, I decided to
redirect the MX server of our domains in the DNS to the firewall, so
that our E-Mail Scanner server didn't recieve more mail, which was only
going to contribute to making the problem worse, more incoming mails,
more queued mails.
With this, the server started sending the queued mails and mail traffic
was restored with the difference that mails weren't scanned at all(they
were no longer passing through the MailScanner Server). When the mail
queues were empty again, I tried to reestablish the scanning service,
but the problem appeared again.
I don't have a clear idea of what can be causing this problem. The
machine is pretty old, but the former administrator told me that it had
never had problems. I think that perhaps we are being Spam Bombed and
perhaps the System poor processing capabilities cannot resists the
increasing traffic and therefore it gets stuck and keeps enqueueing
mails.
Please if anyone can guide me I'll appreciate it,
Sorry if my English is a bit rusty, it is not my native language,
therefore if you need me to be more clear or try to give more details of
something, don't hesitate to ask so.
Thanks in advance!
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:42:25 +0100 (BST)
From: UxBoD <uxbod at splatnix.net>
Subject: Re: Weird Problem with MailScanner
To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
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Stop MS using the init.d script.
Then run MailScanner --debug
and see what it does
Regards,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Damian Rivas" <damian at cht.com.ar>
To: "MailScanner discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:38:52 PM (GMT) Africa/Casablanca
Subject: RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner
1) There are 3 MS childs running
2) How do I run MS on debug mode? Sorry for the ignorance, I'm newbie
yet.
3) Attached.
4) 2413 pts/0 S+ 0:00 \_ grep MailScanner
CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/lib/qt/include
MANPATH=/usr/local/man:/usr/man:/usr/X11R6/man:/usr/lib/java/man:/usr/li
b/qt/doc/man:/usr/share/texmf/man HOSTNAME=ns4.cht.com.ar TERM=xterm
SSH_CLIENT=200.55.14.250 58852 22 WINDOW_MANAGER=metacity OLDPWD=/etc
QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/0 USER=root
LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd
=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:ex=01;32:*.bat=01;32:*.BAT=01;32:*.btm=01;32:*.BTM
=01;32:*.cmd=01;32:*.CMD=01;32:*.com=01;32:*.COM=01;32:*.dll=01;32:*.DLL
=01;32:*.exe=01;32:*.EXE=01;32:*.arj=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.gz=
01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.tar=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.tb2=01;31:*.tbz2
=01;31:*.tbz=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.tz2=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.zip=01;
31:*.ZIP=01;31:*.zoo=01;31:*.asf=01;35:*.ASF=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.AVI=01;
35:*.bmp=01;35:*.BMP=01;35:*.flac=01;35:*.FLAC=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.GIF=0
1;35:*.jpg=01;35:*.JPG=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.JPEG=01;35:*.m2a=01;35:*.M2a
=01;35:*.m2v=01;35:*.M2V=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.MOV=01;35:*.mp3=01;35:*.MP3
=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.MPEG=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.MPG=01;35:*.ogg=01;35:*.O
GG=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.rm=01;35:*.RM=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.TGA=01;35:*.tif
=01;35:*.TIF=01;35:*.wav=01;35:*.WAV=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.WMV=01;35:*.xbm
=01;35:*.xpm=01;35: SUDO_USER=daniel GDK_USE_XFT=1 SUDO_UID=1000
KDEDIR=/opt/kde T1LIB_CONFIG=/usr/share/t1lib/t1lib.config MINICOM=-c on
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin
LC_COLLATE=C PWD=/home/daniel INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc
JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/java LANG=en_US PS1=\u@\h:\w\$ PS2=> HOME=/root
SUDO_COMMAND=/bin/su SHLVL=2 LS_OPTIONS= --color=auto -F -b -T 0
LOGNAME=root LESS=-M SSH_CONNECTION=200.55.14.250 58852 200.55.14.251 22
LESSOPEN=|lesspipe.sh %s SUDO_GID=100 _=/bin/grep
-----Mensaje original-----
De: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
[mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] En nombre de UxBoD
Enviado el: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2007 14:13
Para: MailScanner discussion
Asunto: Re: Weird Problem with MailScanner
Was there anything in /var/log/messages that showed a problem ? How many
MS child processes were set to run ? Even with very little memory it
should at least process some emails. What RBLs were you checking
against ? Quite are few are no longer running so if you are trying to
query them you will get a very long wait and timeouts which maybe where
the problem is.
IMHO you could try removing the RBL list from your MailScanner.conf so
at least virri scanning is still performed, and see if that makes a
difference.
We really need to see the following :-
1) Number of MS child processes set to spawn
2) MS run in debug mode
3) A lint of your SA configuration
4) ps ef | grep MailScanner when the problem is occuring
Hope we can help you.
Regards,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Damian Rivas" <damian at cht.com.ar>
To: "MailScanner discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:37:35 PM (GMT) Africa/Casablanca
Subject: RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner
Mensaje
Yeah, I was thinking in upgrading the hardware, but for me that means:
installing an entirely new server. But I wanted to know if it can be a
software error to fix the problem at least temporarily to give me time
to install the new and upgraded server.
Thanks for the data on memory minimun recommendation Gareth.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
[mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] En nombre de Gareth
Enviado el: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2007 13:32
Para: MailScanner discussion
Asunto: RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner
I would say it is seriously in need of a memory upgrade. The minimum
recomendation is 1GB.
-----Original Message-----
From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
[mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Damian
Rivas
Sent: 19 October 2007 17:22
To: mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
Subject: Weird Problem with MailScanner
Hi there, I'm having a really weird problem and as I am a n00b it gets a
bit more difficult to find a solution.
I'll explain the details first:
Since 6 months ago, I am the System Administrator of a Tourism Agency.
We use an E-mail Scanner in a server with the following characteristics:
Processor: Pentium II 233 Mhz.
RAM: 128 MB
OS: Linux Slackware 9
MailScanner version: 4.55.10
This E-mail Scanner use the MailScanner with Sophos Antivirus and Spam
Assasin to filter spam and scan incoming and outcoming mails for viruses
which are then redirected to an internal MS Exchange Server or to the
Internet, respectively by sendmail.
One month ago, the server started behaving erratically. Instead of
checking and sending mails as it normally did, it started queueing mails
massively and therefore accumulating great quantities of them, it got up
to 10000 mails queued up in a single day, therefore, no one recieved a
single mail. After many pointless attempts to repair this problem and
seeing that the Travel Agents were getting a bit mad, I decided to
redirect the MX server of our domains in the DNS to the firewall, so
that our E-Mail Scanner server didn't recieve more mail, which was only
going to contribute to making the problem worse, more incoming mails,
more queued mails.
With this, the server started sending the queued mails and mail traffic
was restored with the difference that mails weren't scanned at all(they
were no longer passing through the MailScanner Server). When the mail
queues were empty again, I tried to reestablish the scanning service,
but the problem appeared again.
I don't have a clear idea of what can be causing this problem. The
machine is pretty old, but the former administrator told me that it had
never had problems. I think that perhaps we are being Spam Bombed and
perhaps the System poor processing capabilities cannot resists the
increasing traffic and therefore it gets stuck and keeps enqueueing
mails.
Please if anyone can guide me I'll appreciate it,
Sorry if my English is a bit rusty, it is not my native language,
therefore if you need me to be more clear or try to give more details of
something, don't hesitate to ask so.
Thanks in advance!
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:46:13 +0100 (BST)
From: UxBoD <uxbod at splatnix.net>
Subject: Re: Weird Problem with MailScanner
To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
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also check these out :-
http://wiki.mailscanner.info/doku.php?id=documentation:tweaking:some_things_to_try_if_your_incoming_queue_is_running_slow
http://wiki.mailscanner.info/doku.php?id=documentation:test_troubleshoot:spamassassin:timeouts&s=debug
http://www.cafepress.com/mailscanner.140046559
Regards,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Damian Rivas" <damian at cht.com.ar>
To: "MailScanner discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:38:52 PM (GMT) Africa/Casablanca
Subject: RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner
1) There are 3 MS childs running
2) How do I run MS on debug mode? Sorry for the ignorance, I'm newbie
yet.
3) Attached.
4) 2413 pts/0 S+ 0:00 \_ grep MailScanner
CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/lib/qt/include
MANPATH=/usr/local/man:/usr/man:/usr/X11R6/man:/usr/lib/java/man:/usr/li
b/qt/doc/man:/usr/share/texmf/man HOSTNAME=ns4.cht.com.ar TERM=xterm
SSH_CLIENT=200.55.14.250 58852 22 WINDOW_MANAGER=metacity OLDPWD=/etc
QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/0 USER=root
LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd
=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:ex=01;32:*.bat=01;32:*.BAT=01;32:*.btm=01;32:*.BTM
=01;32:*.cmd=01;32:*.CMD=01;32:*.com=01;32:*.COM=01;32:*.dll=01;32:*.DLL
=01;32:*.exe=01;32:*.EXE=01;32:*.arj=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.gz=
01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.tar=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.tb2=01;31:*.tbz2
=01;31:*.tbz=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.tz2=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.zip=01;
31:*.ZIP=01;31:*.zoo=01;31:*.asf=01;35:*.ASF=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.AVI=01;
35:*.bmp=01;35:*.BMP=01;35:*.flac=01;35:*.FLAC=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.GIF=0
1;35:*.jpg=01;35:*.JPG=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.JPEG=01;35:*.m2a=01;35:*.M2a
=01;35:*.m2v=01;35:*.M2V=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.MOV=01;35:*.mp3=01;35:*.MP3
=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.MPEG=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.MPG=01;35:*.ogg=01;35:*.O
GG=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.rm=01;35:*.RM=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.TGA=01;35:*.tif
=01;35:*.TIF=01;35:*.wav=01;35:*.WAV=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.WMV=01;35:*.xbm
=01;35:*.xpm=01;35: SUDO_USER=daniel GDK_USE_XFT=1 SUDO_UID=1000
KDEDIR=/opt/kde T1LIB_CONFIG=/usr/share/t1lib/t1lib.config MINICOM=-c on
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin
LC_COLLATE=C PWD=/home/daniel INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc
JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/java LANG=en_US PS1=\u@\h:\w\$ PS2=> HOME=/root
SUDO_COMMAND=/bin/su SHLVL=2 LS_OPTIONS= --color=auto -F -b -T 0
LOGNAME=root LESS=-M SSH_CONNECTION=200.55.14.250 58852 200.55.14.251 22
LESSOPEN=|lesspipe.sh %s SUDO_GID=100 _=/bin/grep
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Enviado el: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2007 14:13
Para: MailScanner discussion
Asunto: Re: Weird Problem with MailScanner
Was there anything in /var/log/messages that showed a problem ? How many
MS child processes were set to run ? Even with very little memory it
should at least process some emails. What RBLs were you checking
against ? Quite are few are no longer running so if you are trying to
query them you will get a very long wait and timeouts which maybe where
the problem is.
IMHO you could try removing the RBL list from your MailScanner.conf so
at least virri scanning is still performed, and see if that makes a
difference.
We really need to see the following :-
1) Number of MS child processes set to spawn
2) MS run in debug mode
3) A lint of your SA configuration
4) ps ef | grep MailScanner when the problem is occuring
Hope we can help you.
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From: "Damian Rivas" <damian at cht.com.ar>
To: "MailScanner discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:37:35 PM (GMT) Africa/Casablanca
Subject: RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner
Mensaje
Yeah, I was thinking in upgrading the hardware, but for me that means:
installing an entirely new server. But I wanted to know if it can be a
software error to fix the problem at least temporarily to give me time
to install the new and upgraded server.
Thanks for the data on memory minimun recommendation Gareth.
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[mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] En nombre de Gareth
Enviado el: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2007 13:32
Para: MailScanner discussion
Asunto: RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner
I would say it is seriously in need of a memory upgrade. The minimum
recomendation is 1GB.
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Sent: 19 October 2007 17:22
To: mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
Subject: Weird Problem with MailScanner
Hi there, I'm having a really weird problem and as I am a n00b it gets a
bit more difficult to find a solution.
I'll explain the details first:
Since 6 months ago, I am the System Administrator of a Tourism Agency.
We use an E-mail Scanner in a server with the following characteristics:
Processor: Pentium II 233 Mhz.
RAM: 128 MB
OS: Linux Slackware 9
MailScanner version: 4.55.10
This E-mail Scanner use the MailScanner with Sophos Antivirus and Spam
Assasin to filter spam and scan incoming and outcoming mails for viruses
which are then redirected to an internal MS Exchange Server or to the
Internet, respectively by sendmail.
One month ago, the server started behaving erratically. Instead of
checking and sending mails as it normally did, it started queueing mails
massively and therefore accumulating great quantities of them, it got up
to 10000 mails queued up in a single day, therefore, no one recieved a
single mail. After many pointless attempts to repair this problem and
seeing that the Travel Agents were getting a bit mad, I decided to
redirect the MX server of our domains in the DNS to the firewall, so
that our E-Mail Scanner server didn't recieve more mail, which was only
going to contribute to making the problem worse, more incoming mails,
more queued mails.
With this, the server started sending the queued mails and mail traffic
was restored with the difference that mails weren't scanned at all(they
were no longer passing through the MailScanner Server). When the mail
queues were empty again, I tried to reestablish the scanning service,
but the problem appeared again.
I don't have a clear idea of what can be causing this problem. The
machine is pretty old, but the former administrator told me that it had
never had problems. I think that perhaps we are being Spam Bombed and
perhaps the System poor processing capabilities cannot resists the
increasing traffic and therefore it gets stuck and keeps enqueueing
mails.
Please if anyone can guide me I'll appreciate it,
Sorry if my English is a bit rusty, it is not my native language,
therefore if you need me to be more clear or try to give more details of
something, don't hesitate to ask so.
Thanks in advance!
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:47:31 +0100 (BST)
From: UxBoD <uxbod at splatnix.net>
Subject: Bad Link
To: mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
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Jules,
The link to your book on the documentation page comes back with :-
CafePress.com Product Not Found
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:30:09 -0300
From: "Damian Rivas" <damian at cht.com.ar>
Subject: RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner
To: "MailScanner discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
Message-ID:
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Ok guys, I'm going home soon, so I'll check this up on Monday, thanks
for your quick answers and help.
On Monday we will continue with this.
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[mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] En nombre de UxBoD
Enviado el: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2007 14:46
Para: MailScanner discussion
Asunto: Re: Weird Problem with MailScanner
also check these out :-
http://wiki.mailscanner.info/doku.php?id=documentation:tweaking:some_thi
ngs_to_try_if_your_incoming_queue_is_running_slow
http://wiki.mailscanner.info/doku.php?id=documentation:test_troubleshoot
:spamassassin:timeouts&s=debug
http://www.cafepress.com/mailscanner.140046559
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From: "Damian Rivas" <damian at cht.com.ar>
To: "MailScanner discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:38:52 PM (GMT) Africa/Casablanca
Subject: RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner
1) There are 3 MS childs running
2) How do I run MS on debug mode? Sorry for the ignorance, I'm newbie
yet.
3) Attached.
4) 2413 pts/0 S+ 0:00 \_ grep MailScanner
CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/lib/qt/include
MANPATH=/usr/local/man:/usr/man:/usr/X11R6/man:/usr/lib/java/man:/usr/li
b/qt/doc/man:/usr/share/texmf/man HOSTNAME=ns4.cht.com.ar TERM=xterm
SSH_CLIENT=200.55.14.250 58852 22 WINDOW_MANAGER=metacity OLDPWD=/etc
QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/0 USER=root
LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd
=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:ex=01;32:*.bat=01;32:*.BAT=01;32:*.btm=01;32:*.BTM
=01;32:*.cmd=01;32:*.CMD=01;32:*.com=01;32:*.COM=01;32:*.dll=01;32:*.DLL
=01;32:*.exe=01;32:*.EXE=01;32:*.arj=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.gz=
01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.tar=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.tb2=01;31:*.tbz2
=01;31:*.tbz=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.tz2=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.zip=01;
31:*.ZIP=01;31:*.zoo=01;31:*.asf=01;35:*.ASF=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.AVI=01;
35:*.bmp=01;35:*.BMP=01;35:*.flac=01;35:*.FLAC=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.GIF=0
1;35:*.jpg=01;35:*.JPG=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.JPEG=01;35:*.m2a=01;35:*.M2a
=01;35:*.m2v=01;35:*.M2V=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.MOV=01;35:*.mp3=01;35:*.MP3
=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.MPEG=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.MPG=01;35:*.ogg=01;35:*.O
GG=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.rm=01;35:*.RM=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.TGA=01;35:*.tif
=01;35:*.TIF=01;35:*.wav=01;35:*.WAV=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.WMV=01;35:*.xbm
=01;35:*.xpm=01;35: SUDO_USER=daniel GDK_USE_XFT=1 SUDO_UID=1000
KDEDIR=/opt/kde T1LIB_CONFIG=/usr/share/t1lib/t1lib.config MINICOM=-c on
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin
LC_COLLATE=C PWD=/home/daniel INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc
JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/java LANG=en_US PS1=\u@\h:\w\$ PS2=> HOME=/root
SUDO_COMMAND=/bin/su SHLVL=2 LS_OPTIONS= --color=auto -F -b -T 0
LOGNAME=root LESS=-M SSH_CONNECTION=200.55.14.250 58852 200.55.14.251 22
LESSOPEN=|lesspipe.sh %s SUDO_GID=100 _=/bin/grep
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Enviado el: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2007 14:13
Para: MailScanner discussion
Asunto: Re: Weird Problem with MailScanner
Was there anything in /var/log/messages that showed a problem ? How many
MS child processes were set to run ? Even with very little memory it
should at least process some emails. What RBLs were you checking
against ? Quite are few are no longer running so if you are trying to
query them you will get a very long wait and timeouts which maybe where
the problem is.
IMHO you could try removing the RBL list from your MailScanner.conf so
at least virri scanning is still performed, and see if that makes a
difference.
We really need to see the following :-
1) Number of MS child processes set to spawn
2) MS run in debug mode
3) A lint of your SA configuration
4) ps ef | grep MailScanner when the problem is occuring
Hope we can help you.
Regards,
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From: "Damian Rivas" <damian at cht.com.ar>
To: "MailScanner discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:37:35 PM (GMT) Africa/Casablanca
Subject: RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner
Mensaje
Yeah, I was thinking in upgrading the hardware, but for me that means:
installing an entirely new server. But I wanted to know if it can be a
software error to fix the problem at least temporarily to give me time
to install the new and upgraded server.
Thanks for the data on memory minimun recommendation Gareth.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
[mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] En nombre de Gareth
Enviado el: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2007 13:32
Para: MailScanner discussion
Asunto: RE: Weird Problem with MailScanner
I would say it is seriously in need of a memory upgrade. The minimum
recomendation is 1GB.
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From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
[mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Damian
Rivas
Sent: 19 October 2007 17:22
To: mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
Subject: Weird Problem with MailScanner
Hi there, I'm having a really weird problem and as I am a n00b it gets a
bit more difficult to find a solution.
I'll explain the details first:
Since 6 months ago, I am the System Administrator of a Tourism Agency.
We use an E-mail Scanner in a server with the following characteristics:
Processor: Pentium II 233 Mhz.
RAM: 128 MB
OS: Linux Slackware 9
MailScanner version: 4.55.10
This E-mail Scanner use the MailScanner with Sophos Antivirus and Spam
Assasin to filter spam and scan incoming and outcoming mails for viruses
which are then redirected to an internal MS Exchange Server or to the
Internet, respectively by sendmail.
One month ago, the server started behaving erratically. Instead of
checking and sending mails as it normally did, it started queueing mails
massively and therefore accumulating great quantities of them, it got up
to 10000 mails queued up in a single day, therefore, no one recieved a
single mail. After many pointless attempts to repair this problem and
seeing that the Travel Agents were getting a bit mad, I decided to
redirect the MX server of our domains in the DNS to the firewall, so
that our E-Mail Scanner server didn't recieve more mail, which was only
going to contribute to making the problem worse, more incoming mails,
more queued mails.
With this, the server started sending the queued mails and mail traffic
was restored with the difference that mails weren't scanned at all(they
were no longer passing through the MailScanner Server). When the mail
queues were empty again, I tried to reestablish the scanning service,
but the problem appeared again.
I don't have a clear idea of what can be causing this problem. The
machine is pretty old, but the former administrator told me that it had
never had problems. I think that perhaps we are being Spam Bombed and
perhaps the System poor processing capabilities cannot resists the
increasing traffic and therefore it gets stuck and keeps enqueueing
mails.
Please if anyone can guide me I'll appreciate it,
Sorry if my English is a bit rusty, it is not my native language,
therefore if you need me to be more clear or try to give more details of
something, don't hesitate to ask so.
Thanks in advance!
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:15:04 +0100
From: Julian Field <MailScanner at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: building on Red Hat EL v 5
To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
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Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> Julian Field wrote on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:09:20 +0100:
>
>> But they are needed on things other than RHEL5. What's the best
>> way of detecting RHEL5 and all its clones?
>
> I don't know, best way is probably to check for the perl modules
> directly.
That's what I do. For each Perl module RPM I check for the version of
the Perl module, not the version of any RPM that happened to contain
it. That's what the "CheckModuleVersion" program does in the
distributions.
> SA does that and then presents a list of required and optional
> modules. I think this is a good way.
Agreed.
> I think these modules are also not needed on 4 and clones and on
> other more modern systems they aren't necessary as well. Maybe I
> got Craig's posting wrong. I thought you had added this to the
> dependencies of the mailscanner.rpm, if you just added this to
> install.sh (mime-base-64 has been on it for a long time already)
> this is a different matter. I think it's preferrable to have
> install.sh not force the install if it's already installed, but I
> can understand that you put it in there as you try to provide a
> complete package.
I do force some of them, agreed.
> Nevertheless, is there any chance to just get the mailscanner.rpm
> for a download? This would also save bandwidth on both sides.
How many ISP's (most of my useres) can't afford the bandwidth to
download a few megs of a package? You only need to do it at the very
most once every few months. Most people waste more than that in a
day's random web surfing.
Adding more options to the list of downloads encourages new users to
download the wrong one. Most people don't know if they want the full
package or just the single RPM, so I would much rather keep things
simpler for the masses. The enlightened among you can pull out the 1
file you want pretty easily. And what when the requirements change?
They have done so in the past, and then you will need other files from
the distribution as well.
I want to keep it as simple as possible. Installing MailScanner is
already quite hard enough! If you have suggestions for how I could
make it simpler for the masses, please tell me. I'm hoping that
someone will start working with Dag soon to get MailScanner into his
archive in a form where one yum command will install/upgrade
MailScanner and all its requirements at one go.
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:48:55 -0700
From: Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com>
Subject: Re: ****Re: building on Red Hat EL v 5
To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
Message-ID: <1192844935.27714.12.camel at lin-workstation.azapple.com>
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On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 23:15 +0100, Julian Field wrote:
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>
>
> Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> > Julian Field wrote on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:09:20 +0100:
> >
> >> But they are needed on things other than RHEL5. What's the best
> >> way of detecting RHEL5 and all its clones?
> >
> > I don't know, best way is probably to check for the perl modules
> > directly.
> That's what I do. For each Perl module RPM I check for the version of
> the Perl module, not the version of any RPM that happened to contain
> it. That's what the "CheckModuleVersion" program does in the
> distributions.
----
For what it's worth...
*** package perl-MIME-Base64
Fedora 7
# rpm -ql mod_perl|grep Base64
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/APR/Base64.pm
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/APR/Base64
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/APR/Base64/Base64.so
/usr/share/doc/mod_perl-2.0.3/docs/api/APR/Base64.pod
/usr/share/man/man3/APR::Base64.3pm.gz
I believe that this conflicts with perl-MIME-Base64 but I don't use
Fedora for servers.
RHEL v5 (virtually identical)
# rpm -q mod_perl
mod_perl-2.0.2-6.3.el5
# rpm -ql mod_perl|grep Base64
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/APR/Base64.pm
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/APR/Base64
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/APR/Base64/Base64.so
/usr/share/doc/mod_perl-2.0.2/docs/api/APR/Base64.pod
/usr/share/man/man3/APR::Base64.3pm.gz
*** package perl-Test-Simple
Fedora 7 (no conflicts)
# rpm -q perl
perl-5.8.8-23.fc7
# rpm -ql perl|grep Simple
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/Filter/Simple.pm
/usr/share/man/man3/Filter::Simple.3pm.gz
RHEL v5
# rpm -q perl
perl-5.8.8-10
# rpm -ql perl|grep Simple
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/Filter/Simple.pm
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/Test/Simple.pm
/usr/share/man/man3/Filter::Simple.3pm.gz
/usr/share/man/man3/Test::Simple.3pm.gz
This should make the problem with the collisions on RHELv5 a bit more
obvious as to why it's not being detected
----
> > SA does that and then presents a list of required and optional
> > modules. I think this is a good way.
> Agreed.
> > I think these modules are also not needed on 4 and clones and on
> > other more modern systems they aren't necessary as well. Maybe I
> > got Craig's posting wrong. I thought you had added this to the
> > dependencies of the mailscanner.rpm, if you just added this to
> > install.sh (mime-base-64 has been on it for a long time already)
> > this is a different matter. I think it's preferrable to have
> > install.sh not force the install if it's already installed, but I
> > can understand that you put it in there as you try to provide a
> > complete package.
> I do force some of them, agreed.
> > Nevertheless, is there any chance to just get the mailscanner.rpm
> > for a download? This would also save bandwidth on both sides.
> How many ISP's (most of my useres) can't afford the bandwidth to
> download a few megs of a package? You only need to do it at the very
> most once every few months. Most people waste more than that in a
> day's random web surfing.
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It's easy enough to just build the mailscanner.src.rpm after original
install and I don't mind downloading the whole enchilada.
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> Adding more options to the list of downloads encourages new users to
> download the wrong one. Most people don't know if they want the full
> package or just the single RPM, so I would much rather keep things
> simpler for the masses. The enlightened among you can pull out the 1
> file you want pretty easily. And what when the requirements change?
> They have done so in the past, and then you will need other files from
> the distribution as well.
>
> I want to keep it as simple as possible. Installing MailScanner is
> already quite hard enough! If you have suggestions for how I could
> make it simpler for the masses, please tell me. I'm hoping that
> someone will start working with Dag soon to get MailScanner into his
> archive in a form where one yum command will install/upgrade
> MailScanner and all its requirements at one go.
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Not a job for me...I'm lucky to get srpms to build at all. ;-)
Craig
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