[SPAM] Re: Off Topic: Hotmail

hvdkooij at vanderkooij.org hvdkooij at vanderkooij.org
Sat Oct 13 20:37:04 IST 2007


ajos1 at onion.demon.co.uk wrote:
> -
> 
> Off Topic: Hotmail
> 
> I am having a mare on two of my servers... in terms of sending mail to Hotmail....  Hotmail says:
> 
> Oct 13 15:01:53 www sendmail[11277]: l9DE1hnP011220: to=<MYUSER at hotmail.com>, ctladdr=<MYUSER at www.tbshs.herts.sch.uk> (0/0), delay=00:00:10, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp, pri=120338, relay=mx1.hotmail.com. [65.54.244.136], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( <200710131401.l9DE1fti011214 at www.tbshs.herts.sch.uk> Queued mail for delivery)
> 
> ( MYUSER has replaced the real names )...
> 
> Basically it says it has accepted it... but it never arrives...
> 
> This applies to roughly 8 out of 10 messages sent to HOTMAIL .
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas what I can do to get it to accept my mail!
> 
> (I have seen reference to Hotmail and SPF problems on the InterWeb... but I do not have that... far as I know...)

The ackward thing is. They do not do enough to stop spammers from their
own network. I get plenty  of messages like this:

Received: from bay0-omc2-s22.bay0.hotmail.com
(bay0-omc2-s22.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.158])
     by balin.waakhond.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7020817E884E
     for <hugo at vanderkooij.org>; Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:41:02 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from BAY114-W5 ([65.54.169.105]) by
bay0-omc2-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
      Sat, 13 Oct 2007 10:41:01 -0700
Message-ID: <BAY114-W54298DC7B24A75AF7BB9EBBA10 at phx.gbl>
X-Originating-IP: [71.250.47.46]
From: kicking Cruz <Cruzkicking at hotmail.com>
Sender: <cruzkicking at hotmail.com>
To: <cjakers at hotmail.com>
Subject:
=?utf-8?Q?Prescriiptions_Fediex_1_Day=EF=BF=BD_levitira_Get_Expilosive_Er?=
=?utf-8?Q?ectioins_today!_Erectiile_Dysfuncition=3F?=
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:41:01 +0000
Importance: Normal
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Oct 2007 17:41:01.0292 (UTC)
FILETIME=[388102C0:01C80DC0]

That is why I am looking into a system to play this the other way
around. While I do not like whitelisting system you need to register to
in general it may be required to stop the hotmail spammers.

Hugo

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hvdkooij at vanderkooij.org               http://hugo.vanderkooij.org/
	Don't meddle in the affairs of sysadmins,
	for they are subtle and quick to anger.
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