Enabling bounces

Scott Silva ssilva at sgvwater.com
Thu May 24 17:54:22 IST 2007


Kai Schaetzl spake the following on 5/24/2007 7:31 AM:
> John Wilcock wrote on Thu, 24 May 2007 13:52:52 +0200:
> 
>> Yes, you need to add a corresponding ruleset for the spam actions, with 
>> bounce set as an action for the offending sender.
> 
> But then I do not understand the whole thing at all. If I put bounce in the 
> Spam Score Actions, then it will apply for everyone. If I make it a ruleset, 
> then I don't see how or why the other ruleset is necessary/works.
> 
> Example:
> 
> Spam Actions = %rules-dir%/spam.actions.rules
> ->
> From:   IP  bounce
> FromOrTo:   default     default store notify header "X-Spam-Status: Yes"
> 
> what for do I then need
> Enable Spam Bounce = %rules-dir%/bounce.rules
> for?
> 
>> Likewise, MailScanner won't bounce high scoring spam even if you tell it 
>> to via the Enable Spam Bounce rule (as I found out when I tried to send 
>> a GTUBE to test my setup!)
> 
> Oh, I think I now understand, bummer. It's high-scoring spam that I want to 
> bounce back. So, using *only* 
> Enable Spam Bounce = %rules-dir%/bounce.rules
> (and not Spam Actions)
> would work if it is low-scoring spam?
> 
> Hm. What I want to do is bounce spam (or other messages) back that I get 
> from a specific customer who moved to his own in-house poorly maintained 
> mailserver (Exchange). Instead of having a decent spam detection he bounces 
> all non-deliverable mail back via his smarthost - which happens to be me. If 
> I just stop him dead I'm gonna sure loose him. If I try to explain and 
> convince him (already tried) that he should "bounce" during the SMTP 
> connection it takes me a year. So, I wanted to boost all the messages that 
> come from postmaster at hisdomain via Spamassassin to 20 or so, detect them as 
> spam and bounce back to him until he understands.
> As the sender envelope is empty I can only rely on methods that look at the 
> mail headers. And I don't want to add another milter to the mix.
> Any ideas how I can do it with MailScanner (as obviously what I had in mind 
> won't work).
> 
> Kai
> 
Maybe if you "volunteered" some time to help him fix his setup, it might go
easier for both of you. You get to stop the flood, and build some points with
a customer.

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