OT - Quck DNS MX question.

Steve Campbell campbell at cnpapers.com
Sat Jul 28 13:52:28 IST 2007


Quoting Glenn Steen <glenn.steen at gmail.com>:

> On 28/07/07, Rick Tait <rickt at rickt.org> wrote:
> > On 7/27/07, Steve Campbell <campbell at cnpapers.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > They got some hotshot rookie Exchange admin to install Exchange on their
> > system,
> > > taking out what they used to have. There was a definite need for
> something
> > on
> > > site, but I'm not sure Exchange was the best solution. Anyway, he wanted
> > us to
> > > continue being their MX and even hubbing their mailboxes. He then set up
> > > something like fetchmail to retrieve the mail and put it in their local
> > > mailboxes. That way, they got the benefit of our MS/Clam/SA etc. It's
> all
> > fine
> > > except when his fetchmail-whatever script doesn't work, or they get a
> new
> > > employee. They keep calling me about the problems and I have to keep
> > telling
> > > them over and over that I don't do that part anymore.
> >
> > Wow!!! They're getting a sweet deal... What's with the store, store,
> store,
> > store-n-forward though? What's wrong with the usual behaviour of you being
> > /bastion/ MX and then immediately relay via postfix transport map (etc,
> > sorry dont know what you run) right away? Then you don't have to worry
> about
> > storing all their stuff (sucks that you have to do that, as an admin its
> > just one more thing you could care less about but have to keep an eye on).
> > And of course they still get the bennies of the MS/Clam/SA. Plus it ain't
> > your problem Jack if they get mailbombed or DoS'd and its their
> filesystems
> > not yours that fill up. Why should you be paying for their disk?
> Steve runs a Rendmaul shop. Basically agree though.... Unless there is
> significant moneay involved, why do that...:-)

The world revolves around the mighty penny and lowly marketing departments.
Don't know if I mentioned it before or not, but I work for a few newspapers. Our
marketing department will set up any type of scheme an advertiser requests if we
can just get them to commit to a contract. Well, guess what the advertiser  wanted.

Originally, we were just their MX/POP server. It was no big deal as there were
only a few accounts on a dedicated RH 7.3 server. If it filled up, it was their
loss. Then came the new offer of having their own server, and all the rest of
the deal. 

Instead of saying goodbye, marketing allowed them to do pretty much whatever
their new admin wanted, just to keep the pennies flowing. And of course, I don't
cost my company anything more to run their server or not to run it.

Hey, I just work there and the money isn't all that great either!!

Steve

> 
> > I was doing something similar (free) for a friend/ex-colleague for a long
> > time and I just eventually got pissed off enough about it to do something.
> > He was a bit of a crazy type A guy so rather than just tell him to sling
> his
> > hook I basically made some crap up (which may or may not be true but I
> guess
> > probably is) about my not wanting to be potentially liable under various
> > tech laws for having stored his company emails on my own servers, and
> would
> > rather it be a quick anti-spam/anti-virus scan and then I whizz it off
> > immediately to his end delivery MTA (Exchange 2000). I mentioned my server
> > being public and his being private and I think his own paranoia just
> kicked
> > in and he quickly arranged his own end such that I was simply  his
> first-hit
> > relay and his stuff was no longer being stored on my "public" servers.
> >
> :-) You'd better hope he doesn't read this public forum then.... those
> type As can be vicious;-)
> >
> > -RMT.
> >
> >
> > -- Vescere bracis meis.
> Not that hungry, so I'll pass....
> 
> Cheers
> -- 
> -- Glenn
> email: glenn < dot > steen < at > gmail < dot > com
> work: glenn < dot > steen < at > ap1 < dot > se
> -- 


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