Grreting card scams

Alex Broens ms-list at alexb.ch
Fri Jul 27 15:52:11 IST 2007


On 7/27/2007 4:42 PM, Julian Field wrote:
> 
> 
> Richard Frovarp wrote:
>> Matt Kettler wrote:
>>> Glenn Steen wrote:
>>>  
>>>> On 27/07/07, Matt Kettler <mkettler at evi-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> Rick Cooper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that running clamscan on the email file outside of MailScanner
>>>>> detects it
>>>>> as a virus, I've already conclusively proven clamav has the signature
>>>>> and it
>>>>> works properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> One observation, though, the specific test messages I used detected as
>>>>> 1221 not
>>>>> 1222, but they're all related.
>>>>>
>>>>> ecardspam1.eml: Email.Phishing.RB-1221 FOUND
>>>>> ecardspam2.eml: Email.Phishing.RB-1221 FOUND
>>>>> ecardspam3.eml: Email.Phishing.RB-1221 FOUND
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if you insist:
>>>>> # sigtool --list-sigs|grep Email.Phishing.RB-1222
>>>>> Email.Phishing.RB-1222
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it's there. Yes, clamscan can use it, and clamscan properly
>>>>> detects the
>>>>> messages as viruses when executed manually. No, clamav via MailScanner
>>>>> cannot
>>>>> detect it.
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>> Could this perhaps have anything to do with how clam gets fed the
>>>> message in MailScanner....? If I'm not completely senile (always a
>>>> possibility:-), MS doesn't feed it the complete message, hence some
>>>> newstyle sigs will never (be able to) trigger.
>>>>     
>>>
>>> That goes back to my original statement that I felt that the 
>>> difference had to
>>> do with the fact that my MailScanner isn't up-to-date.
>>>
>>> I'm quite convinced that this is a MailScanner interfacing issue, as 
>>> it is quite
>>> clear clamav is working properly outside MS.
>>>
>>> (Note: Personally I don't have a problem with this "issue", I was 
>>> merely joining
>>> in and commenting on it hoping my observations could help others who 
>>> do have
>>> problems with it.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> I don't have that one tripping either. I figure it is due to the fact 
>> that I stop a lot at the MTA and delete high scoring spam so they 
>> never even reach clam.
> I have now written support for passing entire messages to the ClamAV 
> scanners. There is a new setting called "Reliably Detect Spam With 
> ClamAV" which is "no" by default as it has a speed impact. It has no 
> effect when the ClamAV scanners are not being used.
> 
> I'll release a new beta shortly.

Jules
"Reliably Detect Spam With ClamAV" is misleading.

its not really spam ist detecting, it could be anything.

something like "ClamAV Raw Message Parsing" may be more appropiate tho 
that's no nice either.

Alex





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