Request for comments 3

Tue Jul 24 14:32:59 IST 2007

Always up for some beta testing Jules :) Would also be a good way to test SA rules aswell.  ie. archive to a spam account to ensure maximum hits are being generated.
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From: "Julian Field" <MailScanner at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
To: "MailScanner discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:25:25 PM (GMT) Europe/London
Subject: Re: Request for comments 3

How about now? It's not in MCP yet, is that a problem? Shouldn't be, as 
it shouldn't actually make much difference to this functionality (it is 
working off SA rule names, not scores, so it doesn't matter if other 
rules fire as well).

UxBoD wrote:
> That is a similar scenario to what we would use it for, but in ours it would be to protect IPR leaks by scanning for keywords and archiving the mail off.
>
> Good work Jules, sounds like a real success.  What do you believe is the timeline for first beta ?
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> Well, initial testing is showing it working very well. The aim is that 
> you can have anything in the message (expressed as a SpamAssassin rule) 
> trigger any action on the message, spam or not. So you can archive any 
> message containing particular bits of text anywhere, or you can _not_ 
> deliver any message with a certain bit of text in it.
>
> Say you have all mail copied to an archive, but you want certain 
> sensitive mail of your own (or your boss's) not archived, then you can 
> write an SA rule for some subject keyphrase or piece of text in the body 
> of the message. You can then not archive any mail matching that SA rule.
>
> So the boss could have all his email CC'd to his secretary, except for 
> personal mail containing "private" on the Subject line, or mail coming 
> from his family.
>
> The potential for this really is limited by your imagination, and I 
> believe it could be used to provide very powerful setups.
>
> Jules.
>
> UxBoD wrote:
>   
>> Cool. Thanks Jules. Have a great HR application for it :)
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>> From: "Julian Field" <MailScanner at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
>> To: "MailScanner discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
>> Sent: 23 July 2007 16:49:26 o'clock (GMT) Europe/London
>> Subject: Re: Request for comments 3
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>> Eventually yes. I want to get the design and code all working and 
>> settled for spam first though.
>>
>> UxBoD wrote:
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>>> Would this new functionality extend to MCP aswell Jules ?
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>>> From: "Julian Field" <MailScanner at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
>>> To: "MailScanner discussion" <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:24:40 PM (GMT) Europe/London
>>> Subject: Re: Request for comments 3
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>>> John Wilcock wrote:
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>>>> Julian Field wrote:
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>>>>> How about this instead?
>>>>>
>>>>> SpamAssassin Rule Actions = rulename=>action, rulename=>action, ....
>>>>>
>>>>> the "rulename"s are the names of individual SpamAssassin rules, and 
>>>>> the "action"s are list those in "Spam Actions". To specify multiple 
>>>>> actions for a rule, you specify the rulename several times, with one 
>>>>> action for each. Expressions with SpamAssassin rules are done with 
>>>>> SpamAssassin meta-rules. If the rule hits, the action is taken.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll write a few examples of meta-rules so you can see how to write 
>>>>> them in spam.assassin.rules.conf or wherever they need to go. Mr 
>>>>> Kettler, can you correct me on this please?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this sound more useful than the previous suggestions?
>>>>>       
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>>>>>           
>>>> Sounds good, yes.
>>>>
>>>> Are the actions intended to *replace* the default non spam, spam or 
>>>> high scoring spam actions, or are they taken in *addition* to those 
>>>> actions?
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>>> In addition.
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>>>       
>>>> IMO additional actions would be more flexible, but would need the 
>>>> ability to negate an action, i.e. take a particular action by default 
>>>> *unless* such-and-such rule hits.
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Hmmm..... That makes life a bit more complicated. If I evaluated them 
>>> after the existing rules then I should be able to do that. Good point 
>>> though.
>>>
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>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Non Spam Actions = deliver
>>>> Spam Actions = deliver,store
>>>> High Scoring Spam Actions = store
>>>>
>>>> SpamAssassin Rule Actions =
>>>>     MY_BADSPAM_RULE=>not-store,
>>>>     MY_SPECIAL_RULE=>forward theboss at domain
>>>>
>>>> John.
>>>>
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>>>>         
>>> Jules
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>>>       
>> Jules
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>>     
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> Jules
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