SOT: AntiVirus Software

Dimitri Yioulos dyioulos at firstbhph.com
Fri Jan 26 23:46:40 CET 2007


On Friday 26 January 2007 5:37 pm, Scott Silva wrote:
> Dimitri Yioulos spake the following on 1/26/2007 12:11 PM:
> > On Friday 26 January 2007 11:56 am, Matt Kettler wrote:
> >> Dimitri Yioulos wrote:
> >>> On Thursday 25 January 2007 6:58 pm, Scott Silva wrote:
> >>>> Matt Kettler spake the following on 1/25/2007 3:11 PM:
> >>>>> Glenn Steen wrote:
> >>>>>> On 25/01/07, Scott Silva <ssilva at sgvwater.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> The free version still includes this statement in it;
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>     Thank  you  for  choosing  to  install  the  freeware version
> >>>>>>>> of BitDefender for Linux Console Free Edition. It can be used 
> >>>>>>>> free of  charge.  It is fully functional and without any
> >>>>>>>> restrictions regarding the licensed version of the product.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm not a lawyer, but it looks like it is still free.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Looking at my logs, it doesn't seem to be hitting anything here
> >>>>>>> lately. Especially the new Trojan.Downloader-??? that clam has been
> >>>>>>> getting since last
> >>>>>>> weekend. Even a scan of the quarantined file shows nothing. Even
> >>>>>>> McAfee is
> >>>>>>> getting these!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I guess it is time to hit the flusher on Bitdefender.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Still seems to be on par with mcafee here.... which isn't saying
> >>>>>> that much:-):-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It seems in recent months both sides of the clamav and bitdefender
> >>>>> hits have diverged considerably.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let's look at some numbers from my system. Note I've excluded
> >>>>> "HTML-Phishing" matches by clamav from this, as that's not something
> >>>>> BitDefender (aka bdc) looks for.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dec 1, 2006-today:
> >>>>> messages with viruses found by clam but not bdc: 142
> >>>>> messages with viruses found by bdc but clam: 148
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Looks like both bdc and clam are catching about the same number of
> >>>>> messages that the other missed..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> July 1, 2006 - Dec 1, 2006
> >>>>> clam not bdc: 39
> >>>>> bdc not clam: 30
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Note that in the previous 5 months, these numbers were MUCH smaller.
> >>>>> This tells me that in the past clam and bdc both matched most of the
> >>>>> same messages. However, recently, that's changed and a lot more
> >>>>> viruses are coming out that are only caught by one of the two.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This might be due to an increase in how fast viruses mutate, I'm not
> >>>>> sure. However, clearly BitDefender is still doing a lot of good here,
> >>>>> catching several things clam is missing.
> >>>>
> >>>> My volume is still low enough to leave it running. I think I am
> >>>> dumping most of the viruses with blacklists, as my hit rate is very
> >>>> low. And MailScanner is catching them by filetype rules even when the
> >>>> virus scanners miss.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>
> >>> I apologize if I'm taking this post OT, but is anyone using the "free"
> >>> BitDefender console version with MS?
> >>
> >> Erm, yes.. that's what BDC is that I'm referring to above.
> >>
> >>  I installed it, and ran MS
> >>
> >>> bitdefender-autoupdate, which seemed to work.  But, it's hard to tell
> >>> if the virus signatures were truly updated.  Does anyone know if this
> >>> is the case?
> >>
> >> You can always run bdc --update manually right after the autoupdate. If
> >> the autoupdate worked, the manual run shouldn't find anything to update.
> >>
> >>> Also, must bitdefender be "started"?  I
> >>
> >> No. the free version is a console app. There's nothing to start.
> >>
> >>> And, finally, should
> >>> bitdefender-autoupdate be run as a cron job, or does MS handle that?
> >>
> >> MS handles that, by default ever hour.
> >>
> >> You should see log messages like this:
> >>
> >> Jan 26 06:09:53 xanadu update.virus.scanners: Found bitdefender
> >> installed Jan 26 06:09:53 xanadu update.virus.scanners: Running
> >> autoupdate for bitdefender
> >>
> >> Jan 26 07:09:17 xanadu update.virus.scanners: Found bitdefender
> >> installed Jan 26 07:09:17 xanadu update.virus.scanners: Running
> >> autoupdate for bitdefender --
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> >
> > Thanks, Matt.  I admit that some of my questions seemed to have an
> > intuitive answer, but I felt I could go ahead and ask anyway for
> > comfort's sake.  I tested the server against GFI tests, and bitdefender
> > did, indeed, work.
> >
> > In an earlier post, Glenn mentioned that bitdefender could be accessed
> > from MailWatch's Tools page, but that's not the case on my system.  Might
> > I humbly reask here if anyone knows how to add this functionality.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > Dimitri
>
> Here are the two files you need. Unpack them into your mailscanner
> directory, and make sure they have the same permissions that the clamav
> files have,
>
> --

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