{MailScanner: Spam} Re: Greetpause seems very ineffective (Was: RE: Increased Volumes Of Spam)

[Res]

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Dan Hollis wrote:

> nice strawman, but any mailserver worth its beans will let individual 
> customers disable greylisting.

you assume the users are tech savvy, half of them are lucky to know how to 
turn a damn PC on let alone do anything else, and they admit it.



>
> On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Res wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Alex Neuman wrote:
>> 
>>> In my particular case I've had to turn off greylisting for a few servers 
>>> because the owners would rather throw more resources at the problem (cpu, 
>>> ram, etc.) to check mail after it's received. Most people I know get used 
>>> to the additional delay after a while, but there are some users who are 
>>> more... let's call it "recalcitrant".
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The problem with your annoyance at your paying customers who dont want 
>> greylisting comment here is, business emails are time critical, it is 
>> unacceptable to delay email destined for lawyers, real estates, accountants 
>> and every other company where time is crucial, like those vying for 
>> multi-million dollar contracts.
>> 
>> 
>> Picture this:
>> 
>> its 9.10am a QC is due in high court at 10am
>> 
>> most hosting mail servers are very busy so its retry queue is set hourly to 
>> avoid problems wih normal mail
>> 
>> QC tells the barrister he needs that info NOW "email it to me"
>> barrister sends email 15 seconds later.
>> 
>> At 9.10 your grey laming said "i dunno if your a lamer or not try again 
>> later"
>> 
>> 9.40 QC must leave for court, its still not there.
>> 
>> 10.00 its retried and accepted, ..tuff luck the QC is right now before the 
>> full bench of the high court about to see his client slammed away fo 30 
>> years because of a lame mail server that delayed the crucial evidence.
>> 
>> 
>> OR what about the building sub contractor who just lost out on a 500 
>> million dollar project to Donald Trump, he's going to think, if you cant 
>> manage to get and read such a simple effortless thing like an email in half 
>> an hour do I really want to deal with you.
>> 
>> I dunno  maybe you people dont have time crucial customers :)
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheers
>> Res
>> 
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>> 
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Cheers
Res

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