How do i stop these spams?

Peter Russell pete at
Wed Sep 13 00:46:24 IST 2006

Logan Shaw wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Drew Marshall wrote:
>> On 12 Sep 2006, at 23:13, Peter Russell wrote:
>>> I have heaps o users getting these spams at the moment. We have 
>>> razor, dcc and pyzor and heaps of ruledujour running.
>>> -MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam,
>>>     SpamAssassin (cached, score=0.203, required 6, BAYES_00 -2.60,
>> BAYES_00 -2.60 < That's the bit that's not helping. You need to teach 
>> Bayes that these are spam.
> To elaborate a little bit, "BAYES_00" means "the Bayes module
> has examined your message and determined that, based on its
> keywords, it is really very confident this message is NOT spam."
> It's a little confusing, but basically:
> BAYES_00 means "almost definitely NOT spam";
> BAYES_99 means "almost definitely IS spam"; and,
> BAYES_50 means "no clear indication either way".
> Since you are getting BAYES_00 on a spam message, that means
> one of two things:
> (1) this particular message is amazingly, exceptionally good at
>     defeating Bayes, or
> (2) your Bayes database is seriously whacked.
> I would check other spam and see if you are ever getting
> anything less than BAYES_50 on them.  If you get BAYES_50 on a
> spam, that doesn't indicate any problem with your configuration:
> it just means that the Bayes database doesn't know about that
> spam (or family of spam) yet.  If you get higher than BAYES_50,
> that means Bayes is recognizing spam as spam.  But if you
> get lower than BAYES_50 on a spam, that tends to indicate a
> configuration problem.  Something may be training Bayes the
> wrong direction.  Or maybe Bayes hasn't seen nearly enough spam
> (in relation to ham) and it is starting to be overly optimistic
> and conclude that everything is ham and nothing is spam.
> If you look back at logs and your Bayes scores are way off,
> it might be best to first correct the configuration error
> that led to Bayes being trained incorrectly, then toss out
> the existing Bayes database and start fresh.

Thanks i might start again, this is years old DB that uses auto learn 
and minor amount of manual learned spam. Originally it was the FSL bayes 
starter DB.

Thanks a lot

>   - Logan

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