sendmail greet_pause feature

[Anthony Peacock]

Hi Joost,

No worries  :-)



Joost Waversveld wrote:
> Anthony,
> 
> I get your point and you're absolutely right. I'm sorry for that. I 
> won't do it again :-D
> 
> Greetz,
> 
> Joost
> 
> ----- Message from a.peacock at chime.ucl.ac.uk ---------
>    Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:32:04 +0000
>    From: Anthony Peacock <a.peacock at chime.ucl.ac.uk>
> Reply-To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
> Subject: Re: sendmail greet_pause feature
>      To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
> 
> 
>> Hi Joost,
>>
>> My comments were more directed to the list in general.
>>
>> Julian was very clear in his email earlier that on _Linux_ the lock 
>> type needs to change to Posix for Sendmail 8.13 and above.
>>
>> I just get twitchy when statements are made that don't recognise that 
>> the OS is an important component in this setting.  First, it makes me 
>> doubt my configuration.  Secondly, it might give the wrong impression 
>> to admins of OSs other than Linux.
>>
>> Changing the default would have implications for me.  If I didn't spot 
>> that it had changed I may start to see problems after an upgrade, with 
>> a system that runs fine at the moment.
>>
>> Joost Waversveld wrote:
>>> I really do not know if this is for all the OS's. I do know that it 
>>> is true for Redhat, CentOS, etc.
>>>
>>> ----- Message from jaearick at colby.edu ---------
>>>    Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:05:58 -0500 (EST)
>>>    From: "Jeff A. Earickson" <jaearick at colby.edu>
>>> Reply-To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
>>> Subject: Re: sendmail greet_pause feature
>>>      To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Same here.  running Solaris 9 with sendmail 8.13.5.  I've never
>>>> touched the Lock Type setting.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Earickson
>>>> Colby College
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Anthony Peacock wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:32:50 +0000
>>>>> From: Anthony Peacock <a.peacock at chime.ucl.ac.uk>
>>>>> Reply-To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
>>>>> To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
>>>>> Subject: Re: sendmail greet_pause feature
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Joost Waversveld wrote:
>>>>>> You must force posix locking... The standard will be flock 
>>>>>> locking. I thought Julian is thinking about changing the standard 
>>>>>> to posix, but at the moment the standard is still "flock"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it must be "Lock Type = posix" for you... ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this true for all OSs?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using Sendmail 8.13 and the default locking on Solaris and I 
>>>>> am not having any problems at all.  I always thought the advice was 
>>>>> only change this if you are having problems.  I also recall that 
>>>>> the requirement for posix locking is dependent on the OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Grateful for any correction.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joost Waversveld
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Message from wmcdonald at gmail.com ---------
>>>>>>    Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:53:08 +0000
>>>>>>    From: Will McDonald <wmcdonald at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Reply-To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: sendmail greet_pause feature
>>>>>>      To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01/02/06, Julian Field <MailScanner at ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Linux, sendmail 8.13 and upwards needs posix, anything before 
>>>>>>>> 8.13
>>>>>>>> needs flock.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is locking autodetecting, if you see what I mean? In the
>>>>>>> MailScanner.conf it says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # How to lock spool files.
>>>>>>> # Don't set this unless you *know* you need to.
>>>>>>> # For sendmail, it defaults to "flock".
>>>>>>> # For sendmail 8.13 onwards, you will probably need to change it 
>>>>>>> to posix.
>>>>>>> # For Exim, it defaults to "posix".
>>>>>>> # No other type is implemented.
>>>>>>> Lock Type =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does MailScanner *know* I'm running 8.13 or should I force posix 
>>>>>>> locking?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will.
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Anthony Peacock
>>>>> CHIME, Royal Free & University College Medical School
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Anthony Peacock
CHIME, Royal Free & University College Medical School
WWW:    http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/~rmhiajp/
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new 
discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny....'" -- Isaac Asimov