question re: spam mail

Martin Hepworth martinh at SOLID-STATE-LOGIC.COM
Fri Oct 14 09:11:42 IST 2005


Jon

Make sure you have the URI-RBL's enabled (needs Net::DNS) in the SA setup
(in /etc/mail/spamassassin/*.pre)

Also run a 

spamassassin -D --lint

to see if it pops any errors....also check the SARE rules and others on
www.rulesemporium.com for lots of nice extras ontop of the default SA ones.



--
Martin Hepworth 
Snr Systems Administrator
Solid State Logic
Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300

> -----Original Message-----
> From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
> Behalf Of Jon Miller
> Sent: 14 October 2005 01:17
> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: [MAILSCANNER] question re: spam mail
> 
> Maybe I'm not understanding the function of this program clearly.  I'm
> still receiving various spam mail with all types of content ranging from
> free vacation to viagra to see my wife crap and the like.  I submit these
> e-mail as samples to a folder on the linux server and run a script that
> sa-learn reads and then delete the contents of the folder.
> 
> mail:/home/jlmiller/spam# cat /root/spamlearn.sh
> #!/bin/bash
> # spamlearn.sh - enter mail name to run
> sa-learn -p -v /etc/spam.assassin.prefs.conf --spam /home/jlmiller/spam
> ls -l /home/jlmiller/spam/* >> /home/jlmiller/spammail/spamlist.txt
> rm /home/jlmiller/spam/*.mlm
> 
> 
> Now from what I understood from someone on the list is that this has to
> happen several times before SA will learn that this is considered spam, is
> that correct?
> If so why not run the same junk through several times?  If I do it
> manually I see that sa-learn picks up on the information and learns that
> the submitted mail is spam.  If I run it a 2nd time it states it "Learned
> from 0 message(s) (14 message(s) examined)".
> 
> 1st run
> mail:/home/jlmiller/spam# sa-learn -p -v /etc/spam.assassin.prefs.conf --
> spam /home/jlmiller/spam
> Learned from 13 message(s) (14 message(s) examined).
> 
> 
> 2nd run
> mail:/home/jlmiller/spam# sa-learn -p -v /etc/spam.assassin.prefs.conf --
> spam /home/jlmiller/spam
> Learned from 0 message(s) (14 message(s) examined).
> 
> 
> So, if it's learned something from the 1st run why is it the same email
> can come through time and time again?
> 
> Also in the header of some of these e-mails I can see that SA disabled
> itself (2nd e-mail header) or has timed out others are reporting the score
> in a either a negative (1st email header) or too low.
> 
> Like to get some help in understanding why messages such as these are able
> to get through.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> *************** 1st email header ************************************
> Received: from mail.mmtnetworks.com.au
>  ([192.168.3.3])
>  by mmtnetworks.com.au; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:46:53 +0800
> Received: from arcor.de (unknown [81.13.29.16])
>  by mail.mmtnetworks.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BF47150080
>  for <jlmiller at mmtnetworks.com.au>; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:41:15 +0800 (WST)
> Received: from theirs (192.168.226.107)
>  by arcor.de (Crusher oi 4.97) with SMTP id GYCIjl-OHQvnr-qT
>  for <jlmiller at mmtnetworks.com.au>; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 07:29:12 -0500
> Message-ID: <000e01c5cff1$b58e5880$6be2a8c0 at theirs>
> From: "Rajendra Birkland" <rajenktlbirkland at arcor.de>
> To: "Olya Bachelder" <jlmiller at mmtnetworks.com.au>
> Subject: Dumitru Pugliese Meids
> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 07:29:09 -0500
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>  boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C5CFC7.CCB85080"
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
> X-mmtnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean
> X-mmtnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.018,
>  required 2, BAYES_00, HTML_90_100, HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,
>  MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, SARE_HTML_TD_BR)
> X-MailScanner-From: rajenktlbirkland at arcor.de
> 
> 
> ******** 2nd email header **********************
> 
> Received: from mail.mmtnetworks.com.au
>  ([192.168.3.3])
>  by mmtnetworks.com.au; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 21:18:58 +0800
> Received: from cm-85-152-224-116.telecable.es (cm-85-152-224-
> 116.telecable.es [85.152.224.116])
>  by mail.mmtnetworks.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B548150073
>  for <jlmiller at mmtnetworks.com.au>; Thu,  6 Oct 2005 21:14:58 +0800 (WST)
> FCC: mailbox://wkcoawzpu@hotmail.com/Sent
> X-Identity-Key: id1
> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:00:45 -0100
> From: Liliana Winters <wkcoawzpu at hotmail.com>
> X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To: jlmiller at mmtnetworks.com.au
> Subject: re [9]:
> Content-Type: multipart/related;
>  boundary="------------070203010308010305060004"
> Message-Id: <20051006131458.0B548150073 at mail.mmtnetworks.com.au>
> X-mmtnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean
> X-mmtnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam,
>  SpamAssassin (Disabled due to 20 consecutive timeouts)
> X-MailScanner-From: wkcoawzpu at hotmail.com
> 
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --------------070203010308010305060004
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
> charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFF7" text="#B1C5FD"><p><IMG
> SRC="cid:part1.07050508.00050507 at gwnfcmat@hotmail.com" border="0"
> ALT=""></p><p><font color="#FFFFFA">it's beautiful Oscar Powerball Cliff
> Notes</font></p><p><font color="#FFFFF8">Atkins Diet Oprah
> Winfrey</font></p></body></html>
> 
> --------------070203010308010305060004
> Content-Type: image/gif;
>  name="asinine.GIF"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-ID: <part1.07050508.00050507 at gwnfcmat@hotmail.com>
> Content-Disposition: inline;
>  filename="asinine.GIF"
> Click to view Base64 Encoded File
> 
> 
> Jon L. Miller,  ASE, CNS, CLS, MCNE, CCNA
> Director/Sr Systems Consultant
> MMT Networks Pty Ltd
> http://www.mmtnetworks.com.au
> Resellers for: Sophos Anti-Virus, Novell, Cisco, Swifdsl
> 
> "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure
>  is trying to please everybody." -Bill Cosby
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