bayes DB not growing

Arif Malik Arifm at TOMASJEWELRY.COM
Tue May 17 18:03:28 IST 2005 

 ok sorry, now that I am using the bayes starter kit thing, I do have
something like this in my logs: 
BAYES_95 2.06

so that part looks good to me - but now I am just worried about the
autolearn=spam thing - from what I have read, messages tagged like this
are fed to the bayes filter as spam... but EVERY one of my messages is
showing this, even the ones that arent tagged as spam... so I am worried
the ham messages are being fed to it as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
Behalf Of Arif Malik
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:32 AM
To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: bayes DB not growing

Thanks, Billy.. I don't even get any mention of BAYES in the point
scoring part like you do below... im not sure what im missing here, does
anyone have any suggestions?? here is another log entry - notice it is
marked as "not spam" but then it has "autolearn=spam". Also it doesn't
show any Bayes probability entry either as Billy's does. 

May 17 08:17:38 filter MailScanner[4736]: Message 1DY3op-0001Fb-G3 from
65.249.2
45.178 (1-21388026-fitblog.com?reef at stderr.megadealz.net) to aergasg.com
is not spam, SpamAssassin (score=3.007, required 4, autolearn=spam,
DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL  0.07, HTML_FONT_INVISIBLE 0.07, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24
1.00, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, HTM L_TAG_EXIST_TBODY 0.23,
RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 1.49, RAZOR2_CHECK 0.15) 

when I am in debug mode I see this also.. should it have some kind of
entry like BAYES in it?? I used one of those bayes starter kits, so I
don't get that <200 spam error any more.. but it still doesn't seem to
be active!

debug: tests=DCC_CHECK,MISSING_HEADERS,MISSING_SUBJECT,NO_REAL_NAME
debug:
subtests=__HAS_MSGID,__MSGID_OK_DIGITS,__MSGID_OK_HOST,__SANE_MSGID,__UN
USABLE_MSGID

-----Original Message-----
From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
Behalf Of Billy A. Pumphrey
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:46 AM
To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: bayes DB not growing

I was going to say also that sometimes there is no autolearn statement,
like this:

-0.41 BAYES_05 Bayesian spam probability is 1 to 5%
0.01 NO_REAL_NAME From: does not include a real name 


Billy Pumphrey
IT Manager
Wooden & McLaughlin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arif Malik [mailto:Arifm at TOMASJEWELRY.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:39 AM
> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: bayes DB not growing
> 
> Hmm - what I am seeing in my logs, is EVERY message shows 
> "autolearn=spam" - even though my bayes DB isn't growing... even 
> messages that aren't tagged as spam are showing it - for example:
> 
> May 15 07:05:42 filter MailScanner[11331]: Message 1DXJk9-00083F-Tv
from
> 209.0.2
> 4.12 (bounce-flnl-45112503 at mx01.gamerival.com) to adggdwe.com is not 
> spam, SpamA ssassin (score=2.733, required 4, autolearn=spam, AWL 
> 1.02,
HTML_90_100
> 0.19, HT
> ML_FONT_BIG 0.23, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY 0.48, 
> NO_REAL_NAME 0 .18, URIBL_SBL 0.63)
> 
> shouldn't only messages that are considered spam be showing the 
> "autolearn=spam" ??? I still don't know why the bayes DB only has 1
spam
> in it still, but I will try using sa-learn to feed it 200 spams and
hams
> and see what happens... but I am still wondering about the autolearn 
> behavior, if anyone has any insight.. thanks!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On 
> Behalf Of Billy A. Pumphrey
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 7:48 AM
> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: bayes DB not growing
> 
> That is a good link.  On my mailwatch, I look at the spam messages and
I
> do see this a lot:
> Autolearn=spam
> 
> I also see that some messages do not have a autolearn= I am guessing 
> that it was not autolearned because from the link, it said that a 
> message needs 3 points from the header and 3 points from the body to
be
> autolearned.
> 
> When I do a spamassassin -D --lint.  I get:
> debug: bayes: found bayes db version 3
> debug: using "/root/.spamassassin" for user state dir
> debug: bayes: Not available for scanning, only 0 spam(s) in Bayes DB <

> 200
> 
> So mine says that there are only 0 spams.  Does this mean that I need
to
> fix something?
> 
> 
> Billy Pumphrey
> IT Manager
> Wooden & McLaughlin
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Raylund Lai [mailto:raylund.lai at KANKANWOO.COM]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:59 AM
> > To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > Subject: Re: bayes DB not growing
> >
> > have a look on this link to see whether it answer your question.
> > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AutolearningNotWorking
> >
> > Cheers
> > Raylund
> >
> > Arif Malik wrote:
> >
> > > I have a new installation of mailscanner, and for the last few
days
> I
> > > keep noticing the following message:
> > >
> > > debug: bayes: Not available for scanning, only 0 spam(s) in Bayes
DB
> <
> > 200
> > >
> > > now today, it has finally changed to: debug: bayes: Not available
> for
> > > scanning, only 1 spam(s) in Bayes DB < 200 but there has been
quite
> > > a few spams that have gone through, and
> have
> > > been marked as spam, and i see "autolearn=spam" in the log.
> shouldn't
> > > these be added to the bayes DB?? here is the rest of that part of
> the
> > > log that deals with bayes:
> > >
> > > debug: bayes: 2357 tie-ing to DB file R/O 
> > > /home/exim/.spamassassin/bayes_toks
> > > debug: bayes: 2357 tie-ing to DB file R/O 
> > > /home/exim/.spamassassin/bayes_seen
> > > debug: bayes: found bayes db version 3
> > > debug: bayes: Not available for scanning, only 1 spam(s) in Bayes
DB
> <
> > 200
> > > debug: bayes: 2357 untie-ing
> > > debug: bayes: 2357 untie-ing db_toks
> > > debug: bayes: 2357 untie-ing db_seen
> > > debug: Score set 1 chosen.
> > >
> > > any idea what i might be doing wrong ? it is odd to me that 1
email
> > > did finally end up in the bayes db... thanks for any help!!!
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