Bayes and spam increase?

Jeff A. Earickson jaearick at COLBY.EDU
Wed Feb 9 15:55:25 GMT 2005


Martin,
Thanks, I'll give these a test drive in my spam.assassin.prefs.conf.
time to look at rulesemporium again, haven't since SA 2.6.

Jeff Earickson

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Martin Hepworth wrote:

> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 09:33:49 +0000
> From: Martin Hepworth <martinh at SOLID-STATE-LOGIC.COM>
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> Subject: Re: Bayes and spam increase?
>
> Jeff
>
> there's some good rules on www.rulesemporium.com than deal with bayes
> posoining attacks...
>
> I also use the following in my local.cf
>
> ## look for strings of randoms words with no punctuation..
> rawbody  CP_RANDOMWORD_10
> /(?:\b(?!(?:from|even|more|were|with)\b)[a-z]{4,12}\s+){10}/
> describe CP_RANDOMWORD_10       string of 10+ random words
> score    CP_RANDOMWORD_10       0.5
>
> rawbody  CP_RANDOMWORD_15
> /(?:\b(?!(?:from|even|more|were|with)\b)[a-z]{4,12}\s+){15}/
> describe CP_RANDOMWORD_15       string of 15+ random words
> score    CP_RANDOMWORD_15       2.5
>
> uri BAYES_BUSTER /rx359|2004hosting|530000X|openseed|er5hdh|quickforms/i
> describe BAYES_BUSTER Trying to bypass BAYES
> score BAYES_BUSTER 10.0
>
>
>
> --
> Martin Hepworth
> Snr Systems Administrator
> Solid State Logic
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>
>
> Jeff A. Earickson wrote:
>> This sounds like the "bayes poisoning" issue that has been discussed
>> numerous times on this list.  I've kept the following in my
>> spam.assassin.prefs.conf file:
>>
>> score BAYES_00 0 0 -0.05 -0.05
>> score BAYES_01 0 0 -0.04 -0.04
>> score BAYES_10 0 0 -0.03 -0.03
>> score BAYES_20 0 0 -0.02 -0.02
>> score BAYES_30 0 0 -0.01 -0.01
>>
>> I don't trust Bayes enough to let it substantially lower a score --
>> only to increase a score.
>>
>> Jeff Earickson
>> Colby College
>>
>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Magda Hewryk wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:22:41 -0500
>>> From: Magda Hewryk <MHewryk at SYMCOR.COM>
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>>> Subject: Re: Bayes and spam increase?
>>>
>>> Yes, I've got a lot  untagged spam email on the weekend.  I found
>>> BAYES_00
>>> -2.60 attached to all of them.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Magda
>>>
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>>> At 10:43 AM 2/7/2005, Fractal IT Dept. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone!
>>>>
>>>> We've noticed an increase in the number of spam sneaking through with
>>>> scores "just under" our threshold. After looking through the headers for
>>>> these messages, I've noticed that bayes seems to have "no opinion" on
>>>> the
>>>> majority of these (ie. no bayes entry). Am I missing something? I
>>>> thought
>>>> bayes would score every message?
>>>
>>>
>>> That's not entirely true, especially for the 2.6 series.. in 2.6x or
>>> 2.5x,
>>> In those any "no matches" or other 50/50 chance does not get a BAYES_
>>> rule
>>> match.
>>>
>>> Can you tell us what version of SpamAssassin you are using?
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