Disclaimer Attachment- ONLY ONCE

Venkata Achanta vachanta at GMAIL.COM
Tue Oct 26 20:01:56 IST 2004


Thanks for all your replies.

Julian,

       I have a request for you. I want to try to get this feature added
(atleast as a separate plugin) and I am ready to devote developer time in
order to get this done.

I am looking for your directions on the design of the module to ensure
forward compatibilty with future versions of MailScanner.

I completely agree with with you about the MUA's adding html tags.but i am
thinking of a module that can be customized to
-What disclaimer text to look for ?
-What type of encoding to look for ?
etc

I know it will not be completely possible to detect whether every message
has a disclaimer attached to it or not(given the variance in the behaviour
MUA's) but still the purpose will be served for most of the e-mails i
believe.

just want you comments on this.

Anyone intrested to team up ?

Many Many thanks for this excellent piece of software,which is saving the e-
mail world from spam.

Thanks much,
Venkata Achanta


On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:57:26 +0100, Julian Field
<mailscanner at ECS.SOTON.AC.UK> wrote:

>Marco Benton wrote:
>
>> Matt Kettler wrote:
>>
>>> At 09:01 PM 10/25/2004, Marco Benton wrote:
>>>
>>>> alot of companies use the <...barf...> disclaimers and MailScanner has
>>>> an easy way to add it, although not what inteded for.  not every
>>>> company
>>>> has gurus and pointy-haired managers want certain things even tho they
>>>> dont make sense.  but is it right to *not* add that feature because of
>>>> l-users?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IMO, yes, but I think so because the feature only serves l-users.
>>>
>>> If there was a redeeming value to it beyond lusers, I'd say add it.
>>> But it
>>> doesn't. It only serves those adding clueless disclaimers to their
>>> mail. It
>>> doesn't aid those using the feature for virus sigs. It doesn't aid
>>> mailing
>>> lists because mailing list management packages have their own signature
>>> tools. It really doesn't aid anyone in a useful valid way.
>>>
>>> I'll leave it up to Julian, but quite frankly I think it's a waste of
>>> his
>>> time to implement a feature that does the internet community as a
>>> whole a
>>> great disservice, and only serves to comfort clueless PHBs.
>>>
>>> If the PHBs want disclaimers, fine, but I don't think they should get
>>> that
>>> for free from Julian.
>>>
>>> There's plenty of other useful things for him to be doing.. Like
>>> enjoying a
>>> pint of ale/glass of wine/ beverage of choice :)
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>>
>>
>> i do agree.  i'm just playing the role of the l-users and pointy-haired
>> managers.
>>
>> if Julian does decide to do this in a fully compatible way, it *will* be
>> painfull!  i remember writing that disclaimer milter and having to deal
>> with  email clients that didnt fully comply with MIME standards...never
>> mind the raw message bodies that came from brain-dead MTA's or email
>> clients (most likely spammer servers).
>
>I'm inclined to go with the "no" vote here. Once you start considering
>MUAs that have turned the original text into HTML, it gets very hard
>indeed. You have no idea how it might have done it, so you can't even
>just search for the sig in the text. Spaces and line breaks are likely
>to have been played with.
>
>> as long as he enjoys the good stuff and not a pint of stomach burning
>> acid made in the backyard.  ;-)
>
>Stomach acid, now there's a long story I'll spare you...
>Not had any stomach acid since operation number 4 back in 1991. You can
>do without all sorts of bits of your insides, I'm living proof :-)
>
>Anyone fancy buying me a Mac laptop? I've just got an iMac G5 at work,
>and my PC is starting to gather dust already. Hopefully I've got one of
>those lovely little OQOs on the way (see www.oqo.com) so I can work on
>the move more easily. Built-in Bluetooth combined with my phone =
>productive train trips. They look dead cool, I'll report back once I've
>had it a while.
>
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