MailScanner Text File Creation

[Julian Field]

<x-flowed>
At 18:21 25/10/2004, you wrote:
>Hello:
>
>I do know perl and am writing the functions, but I am looking now at the
>Custom Function , the only problem I have, is that the Custom Function must
>be called from within the config file, and not from within a ruleset.  If I
>use custom functions, the one for the non SPAM actions is easy enough, but I
>will also need to do all archiving things / criteria from a custom function
>as well.  Or is it possible to do a custom action from within a ruleset?

You can't call a custom function from a ruleset, just from a config option.

>   If
>not, this would be a great future additon to provide the option to run
>custom actions from within a ruleset, in a similar fashion to the way you
>have already from within the config file.

It's not trivial to do. Why can't you just make the custom function make
the same decisions as the ruleset would have made?

>-----Original Message-----
>From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf
>Of Julian Field
>Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 1:08 PM
>To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>Subject: Re: MailScanner Text File Creation
>
>Yes, it can be done. It would need a Custom Function attached to the
>Archive Mail option, and one attached to the non-spam actions option. This
>could ask if the particular header was defined, and produce a different
>result in this case, compared to the normal response.
>
>But you will need some knowledge of perl to be able to write this.
>
>At 17:00 25/10/2004, you wrote:
> >Hello Again:
> >
> >In this case, if somehow a Spammer managed to know what our custom header
> >was, and placed it into messages, these messages would be processed
> >normally, (i.e. by the MS SPAM blocking routines, and / or SPAM Assassin,
> >anti-virus, etc).  It would, in this case only by-pass our archiving rule
> >and also our delete rule.
> >
> >In other words, since the message was already processed by MS, if I ran it
> >through Sendmail again, would MS capture it and archive it the second time?
> >
> >All we are wondering , is if it can be done, and if so, how?
> >
> >Thanks for any assistance.
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
>Behalf
> >Of Julian Field
> >Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:01 AM
> >To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> >Subject: Re: MailScanner Text File Creation
> >
> >And what happens when a spammer starts sending you mail with that header in
> >it? You can't trust anything in the headers at all.
> >
> >On 25/10/04 3:48 pm, "Stephen Conway" <sconway at WLNET.COM> wrote:
> > > Hello:
> > >
> > > I have managed the following, and have one further issue:
> > >
> > > I am now creating the archive, and also am 'deleting' the outgoing
> >message,.
> > > I have now a question about MailScanner rules, is there anyway that MS
>can
> > > match on any other criteria, i.e. if a certain header exists in a
>message,
> > > then do something?  Example, after my processes analyze the archive
> >created
> > > above, I must then re-send the messages to the Internet to the actual
> > > recipients, but if I again put them through MS, they will again end up
>in
> > > the archive, and a loop will be started.  I could send them via another
> > > Sendmail process , or via another SMTP host but this involves running
> >other
> > > processes, or server..
> > >
> > > After each process above, I put a header field into the messages
> >'X-FLTMAIL'
> > > .  What I would like to know is if MS finds this header, then it should
> >not
> > > archive the message , and also bypass the 'delete' rule .
> > >
> > > Any ideas on how this can be done?  In looking at ruleset syntax, it is
> > > always 'from / To or Default' anyway to check for other fields /
>criteria?
> > > Maybe through a custom function?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
> >Behalf
> > > Of Julian Field
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:17 PM
> > > To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > > Subject: Re: MailScanner Text File Creation
> > >
> > > All you need to do to stop it delivering them is to use a 2-line ruleset
> > > for Non spam actions, spam actions and high scoring spam actions.
> > > From: domain.com delete
> > > FromOrTo: default deliver
> > >
> > > Then use a ruleset for Archive Mail that says
> > > From: domain.com yes
> > > FromOrTo: default no
> > >
> > > At 16:31 23/10/2004, you wrote:
> > >> Good day:
> > >>
> > >> The problem with using the archive method, is that the archive only
> >stores
> > > a
> > >> copy there, but the messages are then delivered to their final
> >recipients.
> > >> What we need is for any mail from the domain to not be delivered , but
> > >> instead just copied to the location with the address file being
> >generated.
> > >> Which function in customconfig would I need to use?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Steve
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
> > > Behalf
> > >> Of Julian Field
> > >> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 11:04 AM
> > >> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > >> Subject: Re: MailScanner Text File Creation
> > >>
> > >> Take a look in CustomConfig.pm. There are several examples in there,
> > >> including a commented-out skeleton of what you need to do. Your Custom
> > >> Function should return 'deliver' for all the messages except the ones
>you
> > >> are interested in, and copy the files where you want them for the
> > >> domain.com messages. You invoke it by putting
> > >> Non spam actions = &YourCustomFunctionName
> > >> in MailScanner.conf.
> > >>
> > >> The alternative approach I suggested (involving the mail archive) may
>be
> > >> much easier for you to get working.
> > >>
> > >> At 15:49 23/10/2004, you wrote:
> > >>> Hello Again:
> > >>>
> > >>> The custom function sounds like it would work, so I would first set
>my:
> > >>>
> > >>> Non spam actions = somefile.rules
> > >>>
> > >>> In somefile.rules I put the default, to be deliver , and for my per
> > > domain
> > >>> would be:
> > >>>
> > >>> From: *@domain.com      ?
> > >>> FromOrTo:       default deliver
> > >>>
> > >>> Please let me know what I would put here, and how to envoke a custom
> > >>> function, and if possible what this might look like,
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Steve
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
> > >> Behalf
> > >>> Of Julian Field
> > >>> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:24 PM
> > >>> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > >>> Subject: Re: MailScanner Text File Creation
> > >>>
> > >>> At 17:07 15/10/2004, you wrote:
> > >>>> Good day:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I had sent previously but missed the reply, if any.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We have an application where we would need to have the following to
> > >> occur:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> From *@domain.com ,
> > >>>> Copy that entire SMTP message to /anypath/MESSAGEREF.inc
> > >>>> Put a file to /anypath/MESSAGEREF.add which contains each recipient
>of
> > >> the
> > >>>> message on a separate line.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Also, the message should stop there, i.e. not be sent out, as the
> > >>> processing
> > >>>> we have on those messages, will anylize then send those.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Is there any way that MailScanner can be set up to do this?
> > >>>
> > >>> You would probably need to write a Custom Function to do this, and
> > > probably
> > >>> attach it to the "non-spam actions" configuration option. This could
> >test
> > >>> for the *@domain.com and write out the message in the files you want.
> > >>>
> > >>> The alternative would be to archive mail using "Archive Mail" and a
> > >>> ruleset, then have a cron job that ran every 5 or 10 minutes and
> > > processed
> > >>> the archive entries to generate the processed data you want, then
> >deleted
> > >>> the original archive files so it didn't process the same mail twice.

--
Julian Field
www.MailScanner.info
Professional Support Services at www.MailScanner.biz
MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support
Buy the MailScanner book at www.MailScanner.info/store

PGP footprint: EE81 D763 3DB0 0BFD E1DC 7222 11F6 5947 1415 B654

------------------------ MailScanner list ------------------------
To unsubscribe, email jiscmail at jiscmail.ac.uk with the words:
'leave mailscanner' in the body of the email.
Before posting, read the MAQ (http://www.mailscanner.biz/maq/) and
the archives (http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/mailscanner.html).
</x-flowed>