Spam over the max allowed score still slips through!!!
Martin Hepworth
martinh at SOLID-STATE-LOGIC.COM
Fri May 14 09:05:45 IST 2004
Remco
are you using the surbl.org lookups? What extra rules do you use??
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Martin Hepworth
Snr Systems Administrator
Solid State Logic
Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300
Remco Barendse wrote:
> OK, this seems to be consistent.
>
> I have two different MailScanner boxes all acting as mail gateways for one
> server. Both servers are behaving the same, they are letting spam from one
> spammer too.
>
> The mails are all stripped from html and their layout is identical only
> the domains/content they spamvertise is different. It seems that these
> guys have found a way to let spam slip through.
>
> If anybody is interested in some df/qf pairs of these mails please let me
> know.
>
> I am doing a delete forward to the local postmaster on that box for high
> scoring spam. Could this be causing this behaviour?? I think that some
> extra (re-processing) of the mail on the same box would have caused an
> additional header to be added right??
>
>
> On Thu, 13 May 2004, Remco Barendse wrote:
>
>>Hmmm, I did not sanitize all of the header indeed
>>
>>My mistake but it is a 1:1 delivery from the spammer straight into our
>>system, I did not cut anything from the header otherwise. If other servers
>>would have been in between extra headers would appear, would it?
>>
>>Could it be the weird return path?
>>
>>This is the exact full header from the qf file:
>>V6
>>T1084429399
>>K0
>>N0
>>P32506
>>Fbs
>>$_[66.249.106.147]
>>$rSMTP
>>$supliftingease.com
>>${daemon_flags}
>>${if_addr}195.x.x.x
>>S<AngelaJackson at upliftingease.com>
>>rRFC822; xxx at xxx.com
>>RPFD:<xxx at xxx.com>
>>H?P?Return-Path: <<81>g>
>>H??Received: from upliftingease.com ([66.249.106.147])
>> by xxxx (8.12.10/8.12.8) with SMTP id i4D6N8fK016259
>> for <xxx at xxxm.com>; Thu, 13 May 2004 08:23:19 +0200
>>H?M?Message-Id: <200405130623.i4D6N8fK016259 at xxx>
>>H??To: <xxx at xxx.com>
>>H??From: Angela Jackson <AngelaJackson at upliftingease.com>
>>H??Reply-To: <AngelaJackson at upliftingease.com>
>>H??Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:23:23 -0700
>>H??X-Mailer: Version 5.01.2764.4667
>>H??MIME-version: 1.0
>>H??Content-type: Text/HTML
>>H??Subject: Date-a-Teen (18+over-only)
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 13 May 2004, Desai, Jason wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Is this message going through 2 different mailscanner systems? I notice
>>>that there could be two different %org% settings in the headers. Notice
>>>"X-xxxx-MailScanner:" and "X-ecemlgw-MailScanner-SpamCheck:". So maybe one
>>>system is detecting it as spam, but yours is not? Or did you just not
>>>completely sanitize the headers?
>>>
>>>Jase
>>>
>>>Remco Barendse wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have already reported this problem a number of times but am still
>>>>having this problem.
>>>>
>>>>There are a number of spammers that send e-mails that are still passed
>>>>through by MailScanner even though the score of the mail is way above
>>>>the defined limits.
>>>>
>>>>I use a delete striphtlm forward postmaster rule for high scoring
>>>>spam, yet the mail gets delivered to the recipient. For most mails it
>>>>works as it should, but for some it doesn't.
>>>>
>>>>Is anyone else seeing this problem? There are no remarks about
>>>>whitelisting or anything in the mail headers and I am confident my
>>>>rulesets are OK since the other spams are trapped correctly.
>>>>
>>>>The weird thing is that the mails are stripped from HTML as they
>>>>should.
>>>>
>>>>I *suspect* that they are being treated by MS as low scoring spam for
>>>>which I have striphtml deliver in my rulesets. Could there be an
>>>>error in the MS script that is checking the score? Or are they doing
>>>>black magic in the mail headers?? I have a qf/df pair to send.
>>>>
>>>>The upper limit for spam is 8, this is the header of a mail that
>>>>slipped through.
>>>>
>>>>Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
>>>>Received: from xxxxxx ([10.x.x.x]) by x.x.x with
>>>>Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713);
>>>> Thu, 13 May 2004 08:50:38 +0200
>>>>Received: from upliftingease.com ([66.249.106.147])
>>>> by x (8.12.10/8.12.8) with SMTP id i4D6N8fK016259
>>>> for <xxxx at xxx>; Thu, 13 May 2004 08:23:19 +0200
>>>>Message-Id: <200405130623.i4D6N8fK016259 at xxx>
>>>>To: <xxxxx at xxx>
>>>>From: Angela Jackson <AngelaJackson at upliftingease.com>
>>>>Reply-To: <AngelaJackson at upliftingease.com>
>>>>Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:23:23 -0700
>>>>X-Mailer: Version 5.01.2764.4667
>>>>MIME-version: 1.0
>>>>Content-type: text/plain
>>>>Subject: {Spam?} Date-a-Teen (18+over-only)
>>>>X-xxxx-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more
>>>>information
>>>>X-xxxx-MailScanner: Found to be clean
>>>>X-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean (MCP-Whitelisted), MCP-Checker
>>>> (score=0, required 1)
>>>>X-ecemlgw-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam, SBL+XBL, spamhaus.org,
>>>> SpamAssassin (score=13.451, required 6, DNS_FROM_RFCI_DSN
>>>> 1.39, EXCUSE_19 0.50, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04 1.53, HTML_MESSAGE
>>>> 0.00, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY 0.10, MIME_HTML_ONLY 0.10,
>>>> MSGID_FROM_MTA_SHORT 3.31, MY_SPACER 0.25, RCVD_IN_AHBL 1.27,
>>>> RCVD_IN_SBL+XBL 4.00, RCVD_IN_SORBS 1.00)
>>>>X-xxxx-MailScanner-SpamScore: sssssssssssss
>>>>X-MailScanner-From: angelajackson at upliftingease.com
>>>>Return-Path: AngelaJackson at upliftingease.com
>>>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2004 06:50:38.0656 (UTC)
>>>>FILETIME=[99AB4C00:01C438B6]
>>>>
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