getting tired of this...

[Randal, Phil]

You forgot webmaster@ - usually their egos are so large they have that one
:-p

I had that problem with an ISP last week - I emailed them (and got no reply,
I guess their RIPE entry is garbage too) a polite note linking to
http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/policy-abuse.php

Cheers,

Phil

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Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK]On
> Behalf Of Martin Hepworth
> Sent: 23 March 2004 08:55
> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: getting tired of this...
>
>
> Getting OT but.....
>
> I had one yesterday, so I emailed postmaster at ...., abuse at .....,
> actual-sender-of-complaint at ......
>
> Guess what all non existant addresses.....
>
> Maybe it's me, but all this pointy clicky M$ way of thinking for the
> users and not having decently educated professionals
> administer systems
> - just poeple who can just about play mine-sweeper is cripeling the
> internet as no-one obeys standards anymore and they think they can
> install and forget (not to mention write long rambling sentences:-)
>
> goes off for coffee..
>
> --
> Martin Hepworth
> Snr Systems Administrator
> Solid State Logic
> Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300
>
>
> Ken Anderson wrote:
> > Martin Hepworth wrote:
> >
> >> Ken
> >>
> >> stupid admins with stupid software that spams 'from'
> addresses with not
> >> delivered etc emails....sigh.
> >
> >
> > Even worse, this is client installed software, so it's just ignorant
> > users doing what ignorant users do; clicking buttons,
> feeling empowered
> > to 'report that spammer'.
> >
> > I emailed one such user who had send us a dozen or so complaints and
> > explained the problem, but was almost immediately rewarded
> with another
> > complaint, my email had been returned to me as spam.
> >
> > I emailed the company. No response. It's going to take some
> awareness on
> > the part of consumers to get these companies to make better
> software.
> >
> > That's why I was hoping there was some sort of organization that had
> > some respect in this area that could exert some pressure on these
> > companies via the media, or by rewarding them with some
> silly logo for
> > their site: 'A Member of the Responsible AntiSpam Software
> Association'
> >
> > Ken
> > Pacific.Net
> >
> >> There was a rant on attrition.org about all this, I gotta
> say I agree
> >> with him.
> >>
> >> Perhaps contacting the support desk of the people who make
> the software
> >> and suggesting they change their defaults and ask their
> customers to do
> >> the same????
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Martin Hepworth
> >> Snr Systems Administrator
> >> Solid State Logic
> >> Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300
> >>
> >>
> >> Ken Anderson wrote:
> >>
> >>> Junk sent to abuse at pacific.net
> >>>
> >>>> Hello. The spammer below is either using your resources
> to send out
> >>>> bulk
> >>>> unsolicited commercial e-mail or is deceptively trying
> to make it look
> >>>> like
> >>>> he is. In either case, a legitimate company like yours
> probably would
> >>>> not
> >>>> approve. The information below should be all you need.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We are seeing 5 a day and increasing, sent to our abuse address.
> >>> In no case has it ever been a legit complaint of spam
> originating at our
> >>> domain. It's always a forged header.
> >>>
> >>> The notification is generated by software called
> InboxShield, maybe
> >>> others, that automatically email abuse@ every domain
> found in the header
> >>> of spam when a customer clicks the 'report' button.
> Larger domains must
> >>> be getting flooded with this stuff.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a group that these companies making anti-spam
> software can join
> >>> that has some sort of principles and recognition of
> members who adhere
> >>> to common sense anti spam techniques? This is really
> stupid software.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Ken A
> >>> Pacific.Net
> >>
> >>
> >>
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