SPF and MailScanner
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Fri Jan 30 10:12:02 GMT 2004
At 10:09 30/01/2004, you wrote:
>On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:37:47 +0000, you wrote:
> >On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 18:17, hermit921 wrote:
> >> I read that SPF (Sender Permitted From) is being incorporated into
> >> spamassassin 2.70. Since the idea is to not accept (reject after HELO
> >> step) any message that fails the SPF test, I conclude SPF can't be used by
> >> MailScanner. It can be implemented in postfix, exim, sendmail, etc before
> >> MailScanner sees the message. Is this a correct summary?
> >SPF is just another means to help determine the likelihood of a message
> >being spam or not. It is true that many sites may eventually want to
> >use this to block mail, however this is not the only way to use it.
> >SpamAssassin is likely to use it like they use rbls, as a trigger for a
> >score. So you certainly could use it with SA through MailScanner,
> >although this would not block the mail during the SMTP transaction (but
> >this is the same decision you take if you use RBLs in SA or MS rather
> >than your MTA.
> >That said, if SPF gains widespread acceptance (AOL is testing at the
> >moment I think, which is a good sign) and proves to be workable then
> >using it at the MTA level may be considerably more effective than using
> >RBL's in the MTA, with a much lower incidence of false positives (which
> >will invariably be caused by bad system administration of the senders
>Just read a good piece in NANAE about reasons why SPF will not going to
>work. At least for a whole lot of people and (small) bussinesses.
>Eventually you would have to include all IP-addresses in the list from
>where your domain can be used to send e-mail. Or restrict the use (and
>ease) of e-mail.
I have yet to see a solution to the problem that actually will work in real
life. SPF requires me to keep track of all the IP addresses of every
outgoing-mail-server used by BTInternet, for example.They change their
setup (for maintenance or whatever) and all of a sudden all my mail is
rejected. Yeah, great idea :-(
People need to think a whole lot harder about solutions to this, SPF ain't it.
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