very urgent problem with MailScanner + postfix
David Vosburgh
vosburgh at DALSEMI.COM
Fri Nov 7 21:11:44 GMT 2003
Try setting "score DCC_CHECK 0.0", "score PYZOR_CHECK 0", "score
RAZOR2_CHECK 0" in spam.assassin.prefs.rules.
Dave
Ron E. wrote:
>On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Ugo Bellavance wrote:
>
>
>
>>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>>De : Ron E. [mailto:ree at THUNDERSTAR.NET]
>>>Envoy? : Friday, November 07, 2003 12:59 PM
>>>? : MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>>>Objet : Re: very urgent problem with MailScanner + postfix
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks, Julian
>>>
>>>Ok, so now I've got the output - biggest slow appears to be razor -
>>>connection attempts that fail...
>>>
>>>Anyone know how to selectively turn off razor/pyzor/dcc?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I think you must set all tests concernig dcc to 0 in spam.assassin.prefs.conf
>>
>>Ugo
>>
>>
>>
>
>I've looked in the user_prefs.template and found nothing like this related
>to dcc, razor or pyzor.
>
>Anyone have any idea how to do this?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>
>>>-Ron
>>>
>>>On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Julian Field wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Set "Debug = yes" as well and it will all appear on your terminal.
>>>>
>>>>At 16:51 07/11/2003, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hm, thanks - I started with Debug SpamAssassin = yes but I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>don't see any
>>>
>>>
>>>>>debug data in maillog - do I need to look elsewhere?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, David Vosburgh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Try setting "Debug = yes" and "Debug SpamAssassin = yes" in your
>>>>>>MailScanner.conf file. Alternatively, you could try to just run
>>>>>>spamassassin manually on a message in debug mode:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>spamassassin -D -t <
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>message_file. If you choose the latter, make sure your
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>(if run as root)
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>/.spamassassin/user_prefs is the same as your MS
>>>>>>spam.assassin.prefs.conf so you get the same behavior.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron E. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, interestingly enough, after the backlog cleared
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>out, I restarted the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>incoming postfix and very rapidly developed another
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>backlog - and now I'm
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>having the same problem you had - ie - SpamAssassin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>timed out and was
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>killed...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any idea how to get SpamAssassin to log everything
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>it's doing so I can see
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>where it's bombing out - I've got DCC/razor/pyzor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>going but I've disabled
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>the RBLs temporarily - just going really, really slow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I will try the lower scanning settings as below...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-Ron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, David Vosburgh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I had a different message - "SpamAssassin timed out
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>and was killed,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>consecutive failure 1 of 20", but the same general
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>problem (extreme
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>slowness delivering mail). My actual problem turned
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>out to be an
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>ex-user that was forwarding corporate email to a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>hotmail account that
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>had hit it's quota. His email was getting bounced
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>back and forth,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>growing all the time. After we changed his alias to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>/dev/null and
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>restarted MS, the queue cleared very quickly. I've
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>since reduced the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>number of messages scanned in one pass, Max
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>Unscanned/Unsafe Messages
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>Per Scan, from 30 (default) to 10. FWIW, it does
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>appear that my system
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>(Sun 220R w/ 2x450Mhz,1GB RAM) is "happier" with this setting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Great, thanks Dave - yes I just found Monkeys still
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>in my RBL list
>>>
>>>
>>>>>so I'll
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>check further but just based on that my performance
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>has gone way up
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>already.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Did you also have the problem with duplicate
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>truncated messages being
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>delivered? And messages in the maillog about
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>messages "still being
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>delivered"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-Ron
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, David Vosburgh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I had a similar problem several weeks ago. I'd
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>first take a look at
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>your mail log file for signs of any delays while
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>running MS. In my
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>particular case, there were SA timeouts during MS
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>processing. If you
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>want to jump the gun, you could just disable SA in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>the mailscanner
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>config file, restart MS, and see if things speed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>up. If it is SA, then
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>turn on debugging to see where things are slowing
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>down. You should
>>>
>>>
>>>>>look
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>at the various net checks going on there
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>(razor/pyzor/dcc and any
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>RBL's). You could selectively disable each one at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>a time in the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>spam.assassin.prefs.conf file to see which one is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>causing problems.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Also, several RBL's have gone out of business in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>the last few
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>months...you should make sure you aren't using them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ron E. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hopefully someone will see this very shortly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Several days ago I posted a message about the same
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>problem where
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>mailscanner begins to backlog and errors about
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>messages "still being
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>delivered" show up in the maillog, with hardly any
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>messages passed by
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>mailscanner to the mta.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I've since upgraded to 4.24-5 due to a backlog
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>starting to happen
>>>
>>>
>>>>>again
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>but it never cleared up and is unfortunately much
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>worse this time
>>>
>>>
>>>>>- (much
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>larger backlog).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I've temporarily stopped the incoming postfix to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>give mailscanner
>>>
>>>
>>>>>a chance
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>to catch up, but need some debugging here to get
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>the backlog
>>>
>>>
>>>>>cleared out
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>as fast as possible and to fully fix this...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Dave Vosburgh
>>>>>>>>>>Sr. Unix System Administrator
>>>>>>>>>>Dallas Semiconductor
>>>>>>>>>>vosburgh at dalsemi.com 972-371-4418
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Julian Field
>>>>www.MailScanner.info
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