when is Bayes scoring used?

Wed May 7 15:43:17 IST 2003

Maybe you have different versions of SpamAssassin installed?  One version
using the files with .db and the end and the other without?  Did you upgrade
SpamAssassin on 3/28?  If you have multiple versions (or older remnants of
versions) of SpamAssassin, you could try uninstalling it.  Then make sure it
is uninstalled, and tools like sa-learn are not still around.  Then
reinstall and see if that help.

Jason

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dene Ulmschneider [mailto:dene at DATATECHIE.COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:07 AM
> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [MAILSCANNER] when is Bayes scoring used?
>
>
> When I tried that - the output returned some errors about not
> being able to
> parse some whitelist_from and blacklist_from so I commented
> them out since
> I have the white and black lists in separate files anyway.
> Other than that
> - the output was identical.
>
> As far as the bayes_path - I would think that it is set
> correctly (even
> though I did not specify in any file anywhere) because when
> MS is scanning
> messages - I can see the lock file created and deleted. Also,
> all of the
> relevant Bayes files are being modified many times every day.
>
> If you feel that specifying the bayes_path will help - I will
> try it - but
> the spam.assassin.prefs.conf says that you only need to do
> that if you move
> it from the default location...
>
> thanks
>
> Dene
>
> At 02:48 PM 5/7/2003 +0100, you wrote:
> >Dene,
> >
> >How about trying this:
> >
> >'sa-learn -D -p /etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf --rebuild'
> >
> >Does this show anything different? Also, have you set
> 'bayes_path' in any of
> >the prefs files?
> >
> >Kind regards,
> >Steve
> >--
> >Steve Freegard
> >Systems Manager
> >Littlehampton Book Services Ltd.
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From:         Dene Ulmschneider
> > > Reply To:     MailScanner mailing list
> > > Sent:         Wednesday, May 7, 2003 2:41 PM
> > > To:   MAILSCANNER at jiscmail.ac.uk
> > > Subject:      Re: when is Bayes scoring used?
> > >
> > > Julian-
> > >
> > > there was a message that I sent yesterday (clipped it out
> of last email to
> > > list) that showed the complete output of the command "sa-learn -D
> > > --rebuild". That's how I know the system says there are
> "Only 87 spam(s)
> > > in
> > > Bayes_db < 200".
> > >
> > > I cannot figure out why the learn.spam.log is always
> counting "learned
> > > from" messages but it is not increasing the number when I run the
> > > "sa-learn
> > > -D --rebuild".
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Dene
> > >
> > >
> > > At 01:50 PM 5/7/2003 +0100, you wrote:
> > > >At 13:32 07/05/2003, you wrote:
> > > >>OK - this is really getting a little confusing...
> > > >>
> > > >>I checked my "learn.spam.log" this morning and a found
> the following
> > > entries:
> > > >>
> > > >>Wed May 7 00:01:01 EDT 2003
> > > >>Learned from 4 messages.
> > > >>Learned from 1 messages.
> > > >>Wed May 7 01:01:01 EDT 2003
> > > >>
> > > >>The problem is that when I run sa-learn -D --rebuild I
> still get the
> > > >>message that says:
> > > >>Only 87 spam(s) in Bayes_db < 200
> > > >>(it should be AT LEAST the 87 form yesterday plus the
> ones listed above
> > > -
> > > >>right?)
> > > >>
> > > >>Can anyone tell me how to fix this? The Bayes files on
> > > /root/.spamassassin
> > > >>are all being updated multiple times per day so I know
> it is working,
> > > >>unless of course the sa-learn command is reading Bayes
> info from another
> > > >>directory that really DOES only have 87 spam(s).
> > > >>
> > > >>Is there a way to run sa-learn and have it tell you the
> path that it is
> > > >>reading the Bayes info from?
> > > >
> > > >Have you tried
> > > >         sa-learn -D
> > > >? I just ran "sa-learn" on its own and it prints the
> usage for you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Thank for any assistance.
> > > >>
> > > >>Dene
> > > >>
> > > >>At 02:38 PM 5/6/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >>>something else to add...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>According the script that Julian provided to run
> sa-learn through cron,
> > > >>>my log is called "learn.spam.log"
> > > >>>
> > > >>>When I checked that file - I added up all of the
> "learned form XX
> > > >>>messages" and the total number was 447.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Is the "learned from" referring to spam and ham? Is it
> possible that I
> > > >>>have 87 spam and the rest of them a ham? I thought I
> was pretty sure
> > > that
> > > >>>more spam was getting processed than ham - but I could
> be wrong.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Can anyone shed a little light?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Dene
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Julian Field
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> > >
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