Messages w/o text not being marked clean.

Chris Selivanow cselivanow at QWICNET.COM
Wed Mar 5 21:37:05 GMT 2003


I must me completely loosing it today..and didn't get the
point of your message.  It would be a problem to just add
the header to all mail messages because it violates
RFC1521 which states that if such a header exists then the
message is guarenteed to be MIME compliant.  Likewise, if
a otherwise MIME compliant message doesn't have this header
then it also violates the RFC and is therefor uncompliant.

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1521.txt (section 3)

(which is why I believe Eudora chokes on the emails)

-Chris

On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:27:40 -0500
Chris Selivanow <cselivanow at QWICNET.COM> wrote:

CS> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:07:49 -0800
CS> Craig Pratt <craig at STRONG-BOX.NET> wrote:
CS>
CS> CP> Actually, would having it on all messages really be a problem?
CS> CP>
CS> CP> That would certainly simplify things. Couldn't a procmail recipe that
CS> CP> says to just add this header if not present?
CS>
CS> Actually I could do that however, I think that mailscanner should be adding
CS> it because it appears that it actually causes the problem after it
CS> converts a uuencoded message to a MIME multipart message.  It should be
CS> adding the MIME-Version header to the email it modifies.
CS>
CS> -Chris
CS>
CS> CP>
CS> CP> Craig
CS> CP>
CS> CP> On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 12:38  PM, Chris Selivanow wrote:
CS> CP> > It actually looks like Eudora is complaining that "MIME-Version: 1.0"
CS> CP> > isn't in the main headers.  If I manually edit the spool file and
CS> CP> > insert
CS> CP> > it before the usesr POPs the mail it works fine.  Is there a way to
CS> CP> > have
CS> CP> > mailscanner check for a "MIME-Version" header and insert it if it
CS> CP> > doesn't
CS> CP> > exist and if a uuencoded file was converted?
CS> CP> >
CS> CP> > -Chris
CS> CP> >
CS> CP> > On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:52:23 -0500
CS> CP> > Chris Selivanow <cselivanow at QWICNET.COM> wrote:
CS> CP> >
CS> CP> > CS> Julian-
CS> CP> > CS>
CS> CP> > CS> Thanks for the responce.  I had previously posted a question
CS> CP> > regarding Outlook
CS> CP> > CS> and attachments.  I think that I have solved my  issue with that
CS> CP> > and it seems
CS> CP> > CS> to be related to this issue and how mailscanner handles uuencoded
CS> CP> > messages.
CS> CP> > CS>
CS> CP> > CS> Here is the situation:  I have a client where some people are
CS> CP> > using outlook 97
CS> CP> > CS> and some people are using Eudora 5.  Before the mailscanner
CS> CP> > (3.27)install there
CS> CP> > CS> were no problems.  After the mailscanner install those who were
CS> CP> > using Eudora
CS> CP> > CS> were having issues with attachments sent via outlook.  Basically
CS> CP> > the multipart
CS> CP> > CS> message content was all being displayed in the message body.
CS> CP> > CS>
CS> CP> > CS> The reason follows:
CS> CP> > CS>
CS> CP> > CS> Mailscanner converts a uuencoded message, which only has one part
CS> CP> > ie: lacking
CS> CP> > CS> a "Content-type" header, and converts it into a base64 encoded
CS> CP> > multipart
CS> CP> > CS> message.  This is all fine and well.  However, mailscanner also
CS> CP> > adds the text:
CS> CP> > CS>
CS> CP> > CS> The following is a multipart MIME message which was extracted
CS> CP> > CS> from a uuencoded message.
CS> CP> > CS>
CS> CP> > CS> Mailscanner does not however add a boundery line like:
CS> CP> > CS>
CS> CP> > CS>      ------------=_1046891750-551-2
CS> CP> > CS>
CS> CP> > CS> before the previous message.  This causes Eudora to believe one of
CS> CP> > two things
CS> CP> > CS> (as far a I can tell)
CS> CP> > CS>
CS> CP> > CS> 1)  That the message really isn't a multipart message
CS> CP> > CS> 2)  That it has another part that is missing (ie: the attachment)
CS> CP> > CS>
CS> CP> > CS> I'm not really sure of the innerworkings of mailscanner but this
CS> CP> > seems to
CS> CP> > CS> be what happens.  Is there a way to resolve this?  Besides having
CS> CP> > my
CS> CP> > CS> client tell their senders to reconfigure thier outlook?
CS> CP> > CS>
CS> CP> > CS> -Chris
CS> CP> > CS>
CS> CP> > CS> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:11:57 +0000
CS> CP> > CS> Julian Field <mailscanner at ECS.SOTON.AC.UK> wrote:
CS> CP> > CS>
CS> CP> > CS> JF> At 17:24 05/03/2003, you wrote:
CS> CP> > CS> JF> >Hi all-
CS> CP> > CS> JF> >
CS> CP> > CS> JF> >I noticed that if I send an email with an attachment but no
CS> CP> > text in the body
CS> CP> > CS> JF> >of the email that the mailscanner will scan the message but
CS> CP> > not append the
CS> CP> > CS> JF> >clean message signature.  Of course if there is at least one
CS> CP> > character in the
CS> CP> > CS> JF> >body then the signature is appended.  Is there any way to get
CS> CP> > the signature
CS> CP> > CS> JF> >appended every time?
CS> CP> > CS> JF>
CS> CP> > CS> JF> It appends the signature to the first html and/or text segment
CS> CP> > of the
CS> CP> > CS> JF> message. If there's no body at all, there's nowhere to put the
CS> CP> > signature.
CS> CP> > CS> JF>
CS> CP> > CS> JF> I'll take a look at the possibility of creating a body if
CS> CP> > needed.
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