Wouldnt it be interesting to see what version of SpamAssasin MailScanner is using when it starts? "MailScanner E-Mail Virus Scanner version 4.24-5 starting..." followed by perl -MMail::SpamAssassin -e 'print "MailScanner using SpamAssassin version $Mail::SpamAssassin::VERSION\n";' would be nice IMO Regards, Tony