GNU / Linux based Anti Virus Software!

[Rishi Gangoly]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rose, Bobby" <brose at MED.WAYNE.EDU>
To: <MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: GNU / Linux based Anti Virus Software!


> It's stupid licensing to charge per user anyway for unix.  They don't
> charge per user for Windows machines.  Virus protection isn't protecting
> the user, it's protecting the machine.  It's the machine that gets
> infected and spreads virus not the user.  The user is just a carrier.
>
> Then you get into the concept of mail gateway's which typically don't
> have any users.  The concept of charging per user protected which was
> one statement from a Symantec reseller for their Nav for Gateways.  Yeh
> right, it's a gateway that scanning incoming and outgoing mail and if
> you relay for a large domain especially educational environments, then
> there isn't any way you could ever know how many users.  I don't think
> the AV folks have a clue about their own licensing and salespeople say
> whatever they think the licensing might mean.  Whenever I checked for
> products to do what mailscanner does, I got different answers or that
> they would have to check with someone else.
>
> My 2 cents.



Bobby,

Thanks for your 2 cents. It means a lot to me when there do exist other
people are from me that feel the same way.

In fact once, this technical guy from F-Secure said that we could use
F-Secure Linux Command Line Scanner the way we wanted and then later his on
sales guy came in to say that it had to be used per user/mailbox.

What jerks man.



Julian,

Now you see why we need to look at other alternatives like Open Anti Virus.

Regards


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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Evans [mailto:sevans at FOUNDATION.SDSU.EDU]
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 10:54 AM
> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: GNU / Linux based Anti Virus Software!
>
>
> My feeling is of course they charge per user.  I don't know of many
> licensing schemes that don't charge per user.
>
> Steve
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Rishi Gangoly [mailto:rishi at THEARGONCOMPANY.COM]
>         Sent: Sat 2/16/2002 6:56 AM
>         To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>         Cc:
>         Subject: Re: GNU / Linux based Anti Virus Software!
>
>
>
>         > At 18:20 15/02/2002, you wrote:
>         > >Is MailScanner planning to get OpenAntiVirus to work as one
> for the
>         > >scanners?
>         >
>         > At some point, yes. However, I don't think it is urgent as I
> don't really
>         > believe that many large sites will trust their anti-virus
> support to an
>         > open-source project with voluntarily-supplied updates. The
> crucial bit in
>         > virus support these days is that you can get updates for your
> package
>         > within a few hours of a virus being seen in the wild for the
> first time,
>         > and I don't really believe that a voluntary project can
> achieve the sort
>         of
>         > speed you can manage by paying people to sit there all day
> writing virus
>         > updates.
>         > --
>         > Julian Field                Teaching Systems Manager
>
>
>         True, but what I'm most disappointed about all the Anti Virus
> companies is
>         that they charge for their Linux command line scanner per
> mailbox, which is
>         nuts.
>
>         I can't afford to pay for 800 mailboxes (and growing) on my
> Cobalt Domain
>         that I host with for all my customers. I am currently Virtual
> Hosting on the
>         Cobalt RaQ3 server for about 16 - 20 domains.
>
>         All Anti Virus companies have in their license agreements a
> clause saying
>         it's fine to use it for a Server but not for Mail Server (i.e.
> SMTP not
>         allowed)
>
>         If I use it to scan mailboxes, they want to DING us big time.
>
>         Is what I'm saying true?
>
>         My Customers can't afford to pay per mailbox.
>
>         What are your thoughts?
>
>         Regards
>
>         Rishi
>